Posted on 08/19/2013 8:42:48 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Edited on 08/19/2013 9:13:20 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
Trevor Loudon, the author of a new book on socialist penetration of the Democratic party and the U.S. Congress, says, “Perhaps the most damaging aspect of this entire NSA scandal is the way the U.S. and international left have used the leaks to turn the American right into a battering ram against U.S. military intelligence capabilities. Historically it has always been the far-left that has sought to castrate U.S. government intelligence capabilities—always using ‘civil liberties’ as a lever.”
Loudon is the New Zealand blogger who broke the story of Frank Marshall Davis, the Communist Party member and suspected Soviet espionage agent, who was a mentor for a young Barack Obama during his growing-up years in Hawaii.
His new book, The Enemies Within: Communists, Socialists and Progressives in the U.S. Congress, is the much-anticipated follow-up to his first volume, Barack Obama and the Enemies Within.
As someone whose KeyWiki site serves as an authoritative encyclopedia on the left, Loudon has a lot to say about the continuing controversy over NSA leaker Edward Snowden. He gave this columnist his comments on how the story has developed and who is behind it.
“When Edward Snowden first made his revelations,” Loudon notes, “it wasn’t the left who first rushed to his support—it was the right, including Glenn Beck and Michael Savage. It was completely understandable. In the wake of Obama’s IRS and Associated Press scandals, Snowden’s revelations were seized on by many on the right as one more example of President Obama’s tyrannical bent. Hundreds of bloggers, commentators and grass-roots activists sprang immediately to Snowden’s defense, even after it became clear that Snowden was hopping from one enemy-controlled territory to another.”
But Loudon points out that some conservative media personalities, such as Lee Stranahan at Breitbart’s Big Journalism site, analyzed the evidence as it came in, noting that the real motive of those behind Snowden was to “attack the military via the NSA and criticize America’s attempts to defend itself from terrorism…”
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PING!
Anti-NSA?
No
Anti-Spying on American citizens, their online activities, their phone calls, their travels and their emails WITHOUT a warrant.
Total Horse Dooky.
We don’t deny our military and spy aparatchiks their due but, Americans shouldn’t be the enemy of America or America®.
Deep Chips ¡¡¡
There are ways for courageous Americans to defend against guerilla warfare. Violating the Fourth and First Amendments of Americans are not among those methods.
Denazification, cumulative review. Report, 1 April 1947-30 April 1948.
http://digital.library.wisc.edu/1711.dl/History.Denazi
With 0bama undermining our allies and our foreign policy at every turn, why do you think the outing of the NSA would be any different? I say think twice before thinking Snowden is a Godsend to privacy rights. It’s all smoke and mirrors, “flexibility” which ultimately favors Putin and harms the U.S.
Hilarious!
I’ve said for a couple years now that when the abuses by the bureaucrats and police got to a point that they lost the support of gun owners and the politically conservative, they’d rue the day.
That day is now here. The “right” has awoken and realized that the government in the US considers citizens the “enemy” and now there’s going to be hell to pay.
It’s about time, quite frankly.
Kincaid analysis DEAD WRONG!!!
USA Enemy #1 - Hildabeast Clinton
USA Enemy #2 - Bathouse Barry Obummer
That dynamic duo favors more funding for the NSA.
This was an important article and has been essentially ignored by the members of FR. I don't get it. One would think that when you find yourself agreeing with your known enemies there would be a little more discussion about "how did we get here?".
The Snowden story is not over. We will certainly learn more and more about his motives as time goes on. The sad thing is that many, many Freepers believe that he has acted in an honorable way and in the best interests of the United States.
There is some chance that view is correct. But I remain skeptical. I can wait for the truth to come out. As we hear more from Snowden we will eventually figure it out.
What is certain, as the article points out, is that our enemies here and abroad are rejoicing over their good luck. It is very unusual to see many on FR celebrating with them.
What a load —oh suuuure the NSA is full of right-wing guys, uh-huh.
It’s not.
Something similar is at work with popular public perceptions of the “right-wing CIA” —it’s actually pretty liberal.
People think it’s not cuz EVERYONE in Hollywood and pop culture makes a hobby of hating the CIA, so loads of America lovers somehow see the CIA and NSA as natural allies.
NAH..! It’s not so simple.
Kincaaid’s right.
One of the groups behind this stuff is the NCPPF. There are two NCPPFs but they serve the same purpose...
the goal of undermining intelligence agencies using political action.
They were able to play both parties before 9/11 on the secret evidence thing... but Sami here was a jihadist all along.
www.discoverthenetworks.org
www.discoverthenetworks.org/printgroupProfile.asp?grpid=6993
Al-Arian, who also founded the ... NCPPF’s stated mission was “to defend the constitutional rights in the United States of political association and due process for ...
Also Dan Ellsberg’s “Truth-Telling” group that defends leakers.
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