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To: kristinn

Quite the conundrum. Is he or is he not naturalized? If he is not and it goes to SCOTUS, will the dikes, Kennedy, and Roberts say he is because of obama’s situation? Libs are going to be pretty butt hurt about this!


6 posted on 08/19/2013 6:25:06 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: goodwithagun

Cruz has never been naturalized because he has been an American citizen since birth.

Cruz’s situation is not comparable to Soetoro’s because:

1) Soetoro’s mother did not meet the legal conditions for transmitting citizenship to Soetoro at birth. Cruz’s mother did meet the legal conditions for transmitting citizenship to her child.

2) Other than being the son of Frank Marshall Davis, Soetoro’s only chance of being an American citizen at birth was being born in the U.S. Since Soetoro’s “birth certificate” is a rank forgery, his “birth” in “Hawaii” is not established.

3) Soetoro was registered in school in Indonesia as an Indonesian. Soetoro reportedly claimed Indonesian citizenship when applying to Occidental. There are no comparable shady dealings in Cruz’s biography.

I have read all the stuff about the LAW OF NATIONS. All interesting. But there is no unambiguous proof that the term “natural born citizen” as used in the Constitution was intended to be NARROWER than “citizen at birth.” I.e., a person who never needed to be NATURALIZED.

The big difference between Soetoro and Cruz is that Cruz is indubitably a citizen, while Soetoro is very likely an illegal alien.


13 posted on 08/19/2013 6:37:27 PM PDT by Arthur McGowan (If you're FOR sticking scissors in a female's neck and sucking out her brains, you are PRO-WOMAN!)
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To: goodwithagun
Quite the conundrum. Is he or is he not naturalized?

He is absolutely not naturalized. He is a U.S. citizen because his mother was a U.S. citizen, thus a natural born citizen.

Naturalized means he had no claim on U.S. citizenship at birth either by parent or place of birth and went through the lengthy process to become an American.

22 posted on 08/19/2013 6:45:43 PM PDT by newzjunkey (bah)
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To: goodwithagun

He is not naturalized.

His citizenship is based on bloodline. He’s the child of a US citizen, so he was automatically a citizen at birth.


40 posted on 08/19/2013 7:05:41 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: goodwithagun

If he was born on Canadian soil to a diplomat or someone in the American Military, NO ONE should question his loyalty!

Least of all, the Gay Illegal Alien, who HAS no DOCUMENTATION!


96 posted on 08/19/2013 7:47:50 PM PDT by Monkey Face (Washington didn't use his right to free speech to defeat the British. He shot them.)
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To: goodwithagun

Cruz does NOT need to be naturalized. He was US citizen by birth because his mother was a US citizen at the time of birth.


455 posted on 08/21/2013 11:44:28 AM PDT by entropy12 (With no fear of re-election, Obama is becoming more radical left..thanks a lot all you who abstained)
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