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To: itsahoot
You overlook the fact that they were declared in the Constitution to be eligible for the office of President, because they were residents of the United States at the signing of the Constitution.

No. The grandfather clause for Presidential eligibility was never used. And this seems to be agreed on by literally all real historians who have ever commented on the matter throughout all of American history.

Ah, but all the historians who've ever lived are idiots. Yeah, I know.

See posts 130 and 210 for more details.

306 posted on 08/20/2013 8:34:41 AM PDT by Jeff Winston (Yeah, I think I could go with Cruz in 2016.)
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To: Jeff Winston
And this seems to be agreed on by literally all real historians who have ever commented on the matter throughout all of American history.

Have you not figured out yet that every time you repeat this lie it makes you look like an idiot? Here is Thomas F. Bayard rebuking you once again.

United States Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard:(March 7, 1885 March 6, 1889 )


And this begs the question. If a German father cannot create an American citizen WITHIN THE UNITED STATES, How much more unlikely is it WITHOUT THE UNITED STATES?

325 posted on 08/20/2013 9:25:23 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Jeff Winston
No. The grandfather clause for Presidential eligibility was never used.

Why would it come up, they were not grandfathered in, they were eligible because the Constitution made special exceptions for those that were here at the adoption of the Constitution.

People at the time were not idiots, they could actually read.

In the real world what we think doesn't matter in the least, they will do what they want to do, and we will find some useless prattle to post on a web page, and eat our peas.

If Conservatives can revise the Constitution when it suits their needs, then it doesn't matter what I think, because the Republic is dead and the Democracy that the Founders tried very hard to prevent, will be established forever, or at least until enough patriots rise up and reject the Zombies.

389 posted on 08/20/2013 2:19:53 PM PDT by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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