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To: Jeff Winston
And this seems to be agreed on by literally all real historians who have ever commented on the matter throughout all of American history.

Have you not figured out yet that every time you repeat this lie it makes you look like an idiot? Here is Thomas F. Bayard rebuking you once again.

United States Secretary of State Thomas F. Bayard:(March 7, 1885 March 6, 1889 )


And this begs the question. If a German father cannot create an American citizen WITHIN THE UNITED STATES, How much more unlikely is it WITHOUT THE UNITED STATES?

325 posted on 08/20/2013 9:25:23 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp
And this seems to be agreed on by literally all real historians who have ever commented on the matter throughout all of American history.

Have you not figured out yet that every time you repeat this lie it makes you look like an idiot? Here is Thomas F. Bayard rebuking you once again.

The claim I made was that all real historians who have ever commented on the matter agree THAT THE GRANDFATHER CLAUSE ON PRESIDENTIAL ELIGIBILITY WAS NEVER NEEDED.

Thomas Bayard's saying that a child born in Ohio to a German father who LIVED IN GERMANY and was only VISITING THE US TEMPORARILY was not a US citizen has absolutely nothing whatsoever to do with whether the Grandfather Clause was ever needed.

You have seriously lost it, my friend. You need to step away from the keyboard and go for a walk in the fresh air, and maybe take a break from FreeRepublic for a few weeks.

329 posted on 08/20/2013 9:32:09 AM PDT by Jeff Winston (Yeah, I think I could go with Cruz in 2016.)
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