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CRUZ releases birth certificate
Dallas Morning News ^ | 8-18-13 | Todd Gillman

Posted on 08/19/2013 6:05:19 AM PDT by praytell

WASHINGTON — Born in Canada to an American mother, Ted Cruz became an instant U.S. citizen. But under Canadian law, he also became a citizen of that country the moment he was born.

Unless the Texas Republican senator formally renounces that citizenship, he will remain a citizen of both countries, legal experts say.

That means he could assert the right to vote in Canada or even run for Parliament. On a lunch break from the U.S. Senate, he could head to the nearby embassy — the one flying a bright red maple leaf flag — pull out his Calgary, Alberta, birth certificate and obtain a passport.

(Excerpt) Read more at dallasnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: certificate; certifigate; coldcaseposse; congress; corruption; electionfraud; eligibility; govtabuse; mediabias; mikezullo; naturalborncanadian; naturalborncitizen; naturalborncuban; naturalbornsubject; obama; sheriffjoearpaio; teaparty; tedcruz; voterfraud
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To: praytell

You mean he didn’t have to send lawyers to Canada to retrieve it? He actually has a copy of his own birth certificate?


41 posted on 08/19/2013 7:39:53 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: cpdiii

That is exactly what I was thinking. :) I will laugh when we find out he did so many years ago.

Obama, on the other had got free stuff for claiming citizenry from another country. THAT is the issue.

I think Obama denounced his American citizenship somewhere. I think THAT is what the cover up is about.


42 posted on 08/19/2013 7:43:19 AM PDT by Truth2012
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To: praytell

‘What Difference Does It Make?’


43 posted on 08/19/2013 7:44:09 AM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR OBAMA TO ANSWER FOR BENGHAZI UNDER OATH!!)
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To: taxcontrol

Title 8 section 1401 subsection G is commonly referred to as The Immigration and Nationality Act. Ted Cruz would have to be an immigrant to the U.S. before title could apply to him. Congress does not have Constitutional authority to pass immigration and nationality legislation that applies to citizens at birth.

Congress has a Constitutional mandate to legislate rules and regulations with respect to aliens and immigrants who wish to become U.S. citizens. Consequently, Cruz had to be an immigrant before Title 8 could be applied to him.


44 posted on 08/19/2013 7:44:31 AM PDT by SvenMagnussen (1983 ... the year Obama became a naturalized U.S. citizen.)
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To: jersey117

Isnt that grand? No hiding. No cloak.


45 posted on 08/19/2013 7:47:36 AM PDT by praytell (Dear God, you already know what I'm praying for!!!!!)
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To: praytell

We need to scan Cruz’s birth certificate and see if it has layers and halos in it like Obbama’s that he released on April 27, 2011.


46 posted on 08/19/2013 7:48:47 AM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: Baynative

For some reason, I’m laughing my self silly over this. Why did Ted choose to release his birth certificate at this particular time? Sounds like a game of chicken with the Won to me. Maybe he is trying to goad zero into coming clean - what’s next? I fully expect Ted to release his college transcripts too.

Sorry, this just tickles me.


47 posted on 08/19/2013 8:06:57 AM PDT by Catsrus
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To: Revel

Baloney! The people dangerous to this country are those now in control. You seem to have a warped sense of what’s good or bad for this country.


48 posted on 08/19/2013 8:09:12 AM PDT by Catsrus
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To: taxcontrol
Sorry but you are incorrect. Title 8 section 1401 subsection G clearly shows that Mr Cruz has US citizenship from birth.

Once more, the meaning of "natural born citizen" was determined in 1787 not whenever title 8 was written. Title 8 has no impact on what the CONSTITUTION means.

You can't change the meaning of words AFTER THE FACT.

If Ted Cruz wouldn't be a "natural born citizen" in 1787, then he isn't one today.

49 posted on 08/19/2013 8:09:20 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: praytell

50 posted on 08/19/2013 8:14:32 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: 3D-JOY
Two citizen parents who is born in the USA was the law until all the abstractions of McCain and Obama

And it could be why McCain was 'chosen' despite his fall in the polls/no money; and then a sudden rise/money flowed in from where?

51 posted on 08/19/2013 8:24:49 AM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: 0.E.O

Yes, same thing..........American mother, non American citizen father. Sen. Cruz is not eligible to be president.....JUST LIKE OBOOHOO!!!


52 posted on 08/19/2013 8:28:11 AM PDT by jch10 (The greatest threat to America is the Democrats.)
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To: DiogenesLamp

And in accordance with the Constitution, the very first Congress pass the very first rules of naturalization in the naturalization act of 1790 which state that a natural born citizen is a citizen of US Parents regardless of where the child was born. This was later clarified (by Congress) to require only one US citizen parent who has lived in the US for the required number of years.

The Constitution specifically grants in Article 1 section 8 the power to Congress to make the rules of naturalization. That includes who requires naturalization and who does not.

Now I have quoted and cited specific constitutional authority, acts passed by our founding fathers and the law of the land. I can further site SCOTUS rulings and other legal precedent. What do you have to offer, other than merely your opinion?


53 posted on 08/19/2013 8:34:10 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: SvenMagnussen

Mr Cruz does NOT need to immigrate for the law to apply to him. Please read the whole of section 1401 and in specific subsection A which states that any person born on US soil is automatically a US citizen at birth. Theses are part of the rules of naturalization specifically as an enumerated power delegated to Congress in Article 1 section 8 of the US Constitution.


54 posted on 08/19/2013 8:37:38 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Revel

Anyone who claims that Mr Cruz is a natural born citizen has read the Constitution (Article 1 section 8), the first acts of congress (Naturalization Act of 1790) and Title 8 section 1401 in it’s entirety. You know, law of the land stuff.

Now your turn to cite the constitution, laws of this land or even court rulings to support your position.


55 posted on 08/19/2013 8:41:04 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: taxcontrol

“And in accordance with the Constitution, the very first Congress pass the very first rules of naturalization in the naturalization act of 1790 which state that a natural born citizen is a citizen of US Parents regardless of where the child was born”

And it was repealed 5 years later making your argument ‘Null & Void’.


56 posted on 08/19/2013 8:41:55 AM PDT by Cold Case Posse Supporter
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To: taxcontrol

8 U.S.C. § 1401 : US Code - Section 1401:
Nationals and citizens of United States at birth

(g) a person born outside the geographical limits of the United States and its outlying possessions of parents one of whom is an alien, and the other a citizen of the United States who, prior to the birth of such person, was physically present in the United States or its outlying possessions for a period or periods totaling not less than five years, at least two of which were after attaining the age of fourteen years: Provided, That any periods of honorable service in the Armed Forces of the United States, or periods of employment with the United States Government or with an international organization as that term is defined in section 288 of title 22 by such citizen parent, or any periods during which such citizen parent is physically present abroad as the dependent unmarried son or daughter and a member of the household of a person
(A) honorably serving with the Armed Forces of the United States, or
(B) employed by the United States Government or an international organization as defined in section 288 of title 22, may be included in order to satisfy the physical-presence requirement of this paragraph. This proviso shall be applicable to persons born on or after December 24, 1952, to the same extent as if it had become effective in its present form on that date;


57 posted on 08/19/2013 8:48:05 AM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: Cold Case Posse Supporter
Representative John Bingham, the father of the 14th Amendment who was well aware of the founders original intent defined a natural born Citizen as this: “Every human being born within the jurisdiction of the United States of parents not owing allegiance to any foreign sovereignty is, in the language of your Constitution itself, a natural born citizen.” (Cong. Globe, 39th, 1st Sess., 1291 (1866))

Just wanted to repeat this for the sake of some here.

58 posted on 08/19/2013 9:02:54 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: Vigilanteman
Has Obama renounced his Kenyan citizenship or Indonesian citizenship?

Even if he did renounce whatever foreign citizenship he has, he still wouldn't be a NBC.

59 posted on 08/19/2013 9:08:05 AM PDT by bgill (This reply was mined before it was posted.)
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To: praytell

“On that same day, Senator Claire McCASKILL, a Missouri democrat introduced a bill titled Children of Military Families Natural Born Citizen Act. Oddly, the bill was co-sponsored by both Senators Barack Hussein OBAMA II and Hillary Rodham CLINTON, both who were running against McCAIN at the time the bill was introduced. Despite the specificity of its title, the bill (SB 2678) was an attempt to change the legal definition of a natural born citizen as referenced by Article II, Section I, clause V of the U.S. Constitution, a move that by default, would arguably and preemptively take away any constitutional challenges against the eligibility of Barack Hussein OBAMA II.

Although the bill failed to progress in the Senate, the same lawmakers introduced a non-binding resolution (Senate Resolution 511) on 10 April 2008 to again ostensibly recognize McCAIN as a “natural born citizen,” the resolution contained broad language that could be applied to OBAMA.”

McCaskill’s S.Res. 511


60 posted on 08/19/2013 9:08:34 AM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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