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Noble [OK] family who lost son wants expungement law changed [5 y/o killed by cop]
The Norman Transcript ^ | August 14, 2013 | Jessica Bruha

Posted on 08/15/2013 10:35:36 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows

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Rogers was later found guilty of second-degree manslaughter, and he and Richardson received deferred sentences.

"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."

1 posted on 08/15/2013 10:35:36 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows
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How sad is that? Sorry, I just don’t understand how that could happen, who calls the police to remove a snake? Last time I had a poisonous brown snake INSIDE THE HOUSE I called a wild-life service (volunteers) and a very brave, patient young man came, caught it, placed it into a bag and took it away to release in the bush.
Who in their right mind would call the police, and more to the point, why would armed men show up to deal with a snake? We sure do live in a different world...I feel so sad for that family. Poor little boy.


2 posted on 08/15/2013 11:05:56 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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A lot of freepers have said that there’s no situation that can’t be made worse by calling the police. I’m starting to agree with them.


3 posted on 08/15/2013 11:08:06 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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I think if had called the police to remove the brown snake in my house, they would have said, ‘go away you crazy lady, we’ve got better things to do than chase snakes!’


4 posted on 08/15/2013 11:12:59 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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I think if had called the police to remove the brown snake in my house, they would have said, ‘go away you crazy lady, we’ve got better things to do than chase snakes!’

But the cop didn't do that. Instead, he chose to deal with it in a reckless manner and ended up killing a little boy. Now it looks like he's getting a slap on the wrist.

Any thoughts on that?

5 posted on 08/15/2013 11:24:22 PM PDT by Ken H
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In 2007, former police officer Paul Bradley Rogers and his former supervising officer, Robert Shawn Richardson, responded to a neighbor’s call about removing a snake from a birdhouse. The snake was believed to be poisonous, so Richardson told Rogers to shoot the snake, but Austin was struck in the process.

Maybe I am a bit off point here but to me these cops are more than just a bit stupid here besides the fact that they are shooting willy nilly with out regard to where the bullets are going.

First off where I work we always coach our employees to stay in roll. That is if you are an electrician don’t go off welding because that is not your roll and you may do it wrong and screw it up. Here these cops are doing a job that an animal control officer should be doing. Well they screwed it up.

The other thing here is that the home owner called to ask that the snake be removed from the bird house. When they asked that the snake be removed I doubt very much that they expected or wanted their bird house to be destroyed in the process. It is pretty obvious that if you shoot a snake in a bird house that the bird house is going to be destroyed as a consequence.

These cops were not thinking about the consequences of their actions on this particular day. One has to ask what kind of screw ups had this pair had previous to this day.

6 posted on 08/15/2013 11:33:27 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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Anything I might think can’t make any difference now. The damage is done. There’s something wrong in the assumption that the way to deal with a snake is to call the police and armed men arrive and shoot it.
It all ends up sounding like the thirteen armed men who showed up to remove an orphamed deer. One misstep and all h+ll could break loose.
A vet with a syringe was all that was needed.

A young volunteer with a hessian bag and a bent stick got rid of my snake.

You want me to comment on what happens after? He killed the boy. He meant to kill the snake. It’s tragic. My opinion isn’t going to make it better. Locking him up won’t change anything.


7 posted on 08/15/2013 11:38:02 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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NONPOISONOUS BROWN SNAKE

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POISONOUS BROWN SNAKE Cottonmouth Mocassin, Agkistrodon piscivorus photo DSC00894.jpg

8 posted on 08/16/2013 12:48:17 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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” You want me to comment on what
happens after? He killed the boy. He
meant to kill the snake. It’s tragic. My
opinion isn’t going to make it better.
Locking him up won’t change anything.”

It might cause other officers to start using judgement and start thinking about their responsibility.


9 posted on 08/16/2013 2:29:59 AM PDT by LevinFan
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"All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others."

In Norman OK when you have a non-human critter on your property that you want removed, and you don't want to do the job yourself, you call the police? (I'd call an exterminator.)

10 posted on 08/16/2013 2:42:24 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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No, the cops were doing a job that should have been done by the family or a neighbor. If we are to the point that we have to call the government to solve all our problems then we deserve Obama.


11 posted on 08/16/2013 3:18:02 AM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Slings and Arrows

That story makes no sense.

Maybe start here: http://xavierthoughts.blogspot.com/2007/09/charges-filed-in-austin-haley-shooting.html


12 posted on 08/16/2013 3:29:12 AM PDT by cynwoody
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The only tim I’ve ever called a cop was when my house was burgularized. Other than that, if you call a cop you are asking for trouble.


13 posted on 08/16/2013 3:46:55 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: Slings and Arrows

The version of that I like is “There are few situations that can’t be made worse by the addition of a cop.”


14 posted on 08/16/2013 3:57:22 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

http://www.australiangeographic.com.au/journal/view-image.htm?index=5&gid=11893

KING BROWN

Australia’s 10 most dangerous snakes


15 posted on 08/16/2013 3:59:37 AM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum!)
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People call the police for everything because the general perception that are very good problem solvers. (And there’s no visible service charge).

Not to mention that it’s 4P (piss poor public perception) to tell people “No, we won’t be responding to a call for (animal in house)(plumbing problem)(Johnny didn’t do his homework)(I have a headache and I need an amberlamps; happens all the time).


16 posted on 08/16/2013 4:54:27 AM PDT by Molon Labbie (Prep. Now. Live Healthy, take your Shooting Iron daily.)
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“If the roles were reversed and I had shot the gun, it would be much different. I would’ve been sent to jail and the sentence would have been done more harshly,” she said.

That says it all.

17 posted on 08/16/2013 5:26:46 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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Richardson told Rogers to shoot the snake

How do you aim for center of mass on a snake? It's not a rhetorical question - how do you shoot something that small, and moving, in a vital organ (I have NO idea of the anatomy of snakes, nor I'm sure do the police involved)?

18 posted on 08/16/2013 5:32:50 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Buck Off, Bronco Bama)
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“First off where I work we always coach our employees to stay in roll.”

I believe the word you’re looking for in that context is ‘role.’ :)


19 posted on 08/16/2013 5:51:36 AM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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If the cops are going to serve as exterminators, they need to take the right tools to the job.


20 posted on 08/16/2013 6:26:23 AM PDT by Ditto
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