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With So Many Job Openings, Why So Little Hiring?
Washington Monthly ^ | 08/14/2013 | Peter Orzag

Posted on 08/14/2013 6:37:24 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: Resolute Conservative

I’m in the market for a developer position directly due to the actions of Eric Holder, but I won’t get into that.

What I’ve seen is that there is great demand for skilled and experienced developers that are stable individuals,

and the employers just can’t find them. That’s not saying, though, that they’re willing to step up to where the supply and demand curves cross, though, if you know what I mean.


21 posted on 08/14/2013 7:06:25 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SeekAndFind

Additional reasons for so many job openings and so few actual new hires:
* HR software that posts the same job on every board inflates the apparent total
* Use of recruiters and posting a job as the employer results in duplicate job postings
* Illegal immigrants take many low skill positions through recruiters, so citizens see no apparent hiring from job postings
* Internal job positions are reserved for existing staff but they have to post externally in the name of fairness, so the position is designed to be impossible for anyone but the existing staffer


22 posted on 08/14/2013 7:08:56 AM PDT by tbw2
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To: SeekAndFind

Answer in one word: Øbamacare


23 posted on 08/14/2013 7:09:39 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hiring: 28 hours a week for free, as interns, until such time as you even mention being paid, then you are downsized.

Hiring: 28 hours a week for minimum wage, with zero chance of ever getting a salaried position. With mandatory union dues.

Hiring: Cash only, no W-2 form, paid less than minimum wage but making more money because it is tax and FICA free.

Hiring: Petty criminals. $50k/yr tax free, smuggling heroin for Oxy-junkies. Employers until arrested.


24 posted on 08/14/2013 7:10:49 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Be Brave! Fear is just the opposite of Nar!)
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To: dfwgator

Look what I found!

It is an updated version of the scam with the clip from the 2007 seminar which I was telling you about. Gee, who would have ever thunk that the Democrat controlled immigration lawyer lobby and the RINO controlled cheap labor lobby were in bed together?

25 posted on 08/14/2013 7:15:59 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: cll
are not willing to start at the bottom and work their way up

I had this very conversation with an intern this past spring. He was amazed that he was getting passed over for (IT) jobs. People who only had HS diplomas, plus experience, were getting hired full time over him ... and he had a college degree....

Putting my contempt in the happy box, I told him that I handled hiring all the time, and, "Rather than emphasizing your college degree, emphasize the experience you gained as an intern, as it will get you farther."

Fat chance, as arrogance at his level will always shine through. But, I thought that it was pretty good advice.

26 posted on 08/14/2013 7:16:58 AM PDT by wbill
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Here is a direct quote from a job ad:

"Training and Experience:

No previous experience required.

Applicant must currently be enrolled at or recent graduate of an accredited university or college, majoring in the field of the internship, with a plan of working in that field as a career."

27 posted on 08/14/2013 7:21:07 AM PDT by fulltlt
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To: Resolute Conservative
You and I could swap some interviewing war stories. I can't tell you the number of candidates where we started off with a wish list - "Must have 3-5 yrs, experience in X, Y, and Z and so on and so forth" ...... and wound up with "Must show up to work on time, and not curse at the clients."

My favorite is the girl (!) who called me for the phone interview - that's a little out of protocol, usually I'm supposed to call the interviewee, but no matter.

Anyhoo, she started the conversation with "Yeah, I'm calling about the &%&#ing interview?" and went downhill from there. :-)

28 posted on 08/14/2013 7:22:29 AM PDT by wbill
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To: wbill
We had a african american show up for her interview in her pajamas. Needless to say we didn't hire her.

We hired a chinese kid who only lasted 1 day. His mother called and told us that the work we gave him to do was below him.

29 posted on 08/14/2013 7:26:35 AM PDT by fulltlt
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To: cll

Too many businesses want you to have four year college degrees, which necessitates building a debt of $40 grand or more.

Many young people might be willing to start at the bottom, but they cannot afford to do so.


30 posted on 08/14/2013 7:28:12 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: fulltlt
I had a guy interview who mentioned in passing that he was a "former meth addict". "Good for you!", I said, "How long has it been?"

"48 hours."

31 posted on 08/14/2013 7:30:03 AM PDT by wbill
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To: cll

cll, you have to share first prize with poobear.

You got half of the right answer, poobear got the other half.

There is no mystery. It’s simple cause and effect.


32 posted on 08/14/2013 7:30:10 AM PDT by Walrus (America died on November 6, 2012 --- RIP)
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To: MrB

RE: there is great demand for skilled and experienced developers that are stable individuals

Are people who have worked on CONTRACT ( as consultants ) considered stable or not?

I am a software developer ( with a full time position ). However, I get calls from recruiters all the time looking for people who can work on CONTRACT ( 6 months, 9 months, a year ).


33 posted on 08/14/2013 7:35:00 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: poobear
Who’s going to give up $45,000 to $65,000 in Federal Subsidies for a lousy part-time Retail job?

AND...have to put up with supervision, co-workers and the general public (that's the hard part).

34 posted on 08/14/2013 7:35:48 AM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: SeekAndFind

There’s quite a broad spectrum of reqs out there,
but very few direct hire. Almost all are contract for hire at best.

I think this is a symptom of the “stable candidate” issue.
It costs a lot of money to full time hire someone, and what if the guy’s a flake?

So, they have a 6 month “contract” then convert at the end if he’s not a flake.


35 posted on 08/14/2013 7:37:47 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: SeekAndFind
I don't think that they are real openings. our local hospital had almost two hundred openings that they have decided not to fill and eliminate.
36 posted on 08/14/2013 7:39:02 AM PDT by Chickensoup (200 million unarmed " people killed in the 20th century by Leftist Totalitarian Fascists)
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To: SeekAndFind

One reason is the employers are offering salaries sharply lower than what the same job paid only five or six years ago — and people are turning them down! This is especially true for professional positions. Some pay no more and sometimes less than what secretaries earn. Thus, people could find ways to earn more money doing something else.


37 posted on 08/14/2013 7:39:13 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: MrB

The other problem is how difficult it is to fire someone, because it seems these days everyone who is fired finds a reason to try to sue the company, especially if they are a minority.


38 posted on 08/14/2013 7:40:17 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Jonty30
Too many businesses want you to have four year college degrees

Agreed, that's why all of the non-entry level positions that I hire for ask for "BS in XXXX, or equivalent experience".

Now, the question is, how do you get experience? That's stickier, but I'd start with volunteering, attending user groups, network network network, and so on.

I'm in IT, and one of the questions I always ask at entry level interviews is, "How many computers do you have at home?" "Zero" is the wrong answer.

"One" or "Two" is adequate. The correct answer is "Twelve, but most of them are torn apart and in a box under my bed. Man, let me tell ya about this sweet setup I have....."

39 posted on 08/14/2013 7:40:46 AM PDT by wbill
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To: Hulka

The reason is no one wants to train anymore.

So you want the clone of the guy who just left. Which doesn’t exist.


40 posted on 08/14/2013 7:41:28 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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