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Proposed new federal rule could put 'big brother' in your driver's seat
Fox News ^ | August 12, 2013 | Doug McKelway

Posted on 08/12/2013 6:34:34 PM PDT by jazusamo

Video at source.

A proposed federal rule that would require black boxes or event data recorders (EDRs) in every U.S. automobile may mean “Big Brother” could be in your passenger seat for every drive.

The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration rule requires all light passenger vehicles be equipped with an EDR by Sep.1, 2014. Ninety-six percent of new cars already have them - measuring such inputs as speed, lateral acceleration, pedal effort, seat belt use, wheel spin, steering wheel turn and direction.

Black box data retrieved from U.S. car accidents in a single day would provide more information than a year's worth of crash testing, says Tom Kowalick, who heads the design team that is standardizing the devices for automakers worldwide.

But he also said he fears that for all their potential good, the EDRs present a massive privacy dilemma, and an opportunity for fraudsters.

"They can take that odometer and roll that odometer back to zero,” he said. “They can change the Vehicle Identification Number (VIN), which is in the computer. And once they do that, then it's okay for them to very simply steal the motor vehicle and move it away."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bigbrother; blackbox; cars; edr; fourthamendment; nhtsa
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1 posted on 08/12/2013 6:34:34 PM PDT by jazusamo
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To: jazusamo

Yeah... No.


2 posted on 08/12/2013 6:37:27 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Dead Corpse
My 1970 240Z is looking pretty good right now.

/johnny

3 posted on 08/12/2013 6:38:43 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

That’s a sweet ride.


4 posted on 08/12/2013 6:39:48 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: jazusamo
So put it in. Where do you hook that throttle thingy up on a single barrel downdraft Zenith Carburetor, anyway?

Take your surveillance and check yourselves for polyps, Fedguys.

5 posted on 08/12/2013 6:41:41 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Army Air Corps
It doesn't have a computer. That seems to be important these days.

/johnny

6 posted on 08/12/2013 6:42:04 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: jazusamo

More and more I want to go back to an old air-cooled Corvair from the 1960s like my parents had.


7 posted on 08/12/2013 6:42:19 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (This message has been recorded but not approved by Obama's StasiNet. Read it at your peril.)
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To: jazusamo

Is there a law against taking them out of the vehicle?


8 posted on 08/12/2013 6:43:05 PM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Smokin' Joe

Take your surveillance and check yourselves for polyps, Fedguys.


ROFLMAO!!! You get the prize!


9 posted on 08/12/2013 6:43:06 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: jazusamo

Some day, gov’t will pull you over and write speeding tickets of your black box.


10 posted on 08/12/2013 6:44:59 PM PDT by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: jazusamo

That’s why the wife just bought a 2013 model....

Imagine the value of pre-2014 used cars for the next 10 years!


11 posted on 08/12/2013 6:45:41 PM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: jazusamo

Another reason to drive an older car.

12 posted on 08/12/2013 6:45:53 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I aim to raise a million plus for Gov. Palin. What'll you do?.)
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To: Mamzelle

Most likely a computer interlock to everything else in the car....plus voiding the warranty and likely your insurance.


13 posted on 08/12/2013 6:47:48 PM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: JRandomFreeper

My Dad had a 76? 280Z and loved it, it was great on the open road.


14 posted on 08/12/2013 6:47:54 PM PDT by jazusamo ("I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white." T. Sowell)
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To: Mamzelle

If this should pass I’d bet it’ll be illegal to remove them.


15 posted on 08/12/2013 6:49:20 PM PDT by jazusamo ("I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white." T. Sowell)
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To: jazusamo
Current new vehicles have all sorts of microprocessors with sensors collecting data and sharing same on data busses every millisecond.

Having a data logging module storing the data as it flows around is not big deal technologically.

Welcome to the no privacy future.

16 posted on 08/12/2013 6:49:33 PM PDT by Paladin2
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To: umgud

No...

Auto-download.

You’ll just get an itemized list of tickets at the end of each month.....

...unless they auto-deduct them from your checking account.

NOW do you understand what “Tea Party” means?


17 posted on 08/12/2013 6:50:16 PM PDT by G Larry (Let his days be few; and let another take his office. Psalms 109:8)
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To: jazusamo

Auto black boxes, a greedy plaintiff trial lawyers dream for doubling his take home income. Seize on one or two lines of data to blame the accident on the other driver, not his client’s drunk/ cell phone texting, across the white line driving at the moment of the crash.


18 posted on 08/12/2013 6:50:26 PM PDT by RicocheT (Where neither their property nor their honor is touched, most men live content, Niccolo Machiavelli)
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19 posted on 08/12/2013 6:50:51 PM PDT by jazusamo ("I am so old that I can remember when most of the people promoting race hate were white." T. Sowell)
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To: umgud

Some day, gov’t will pull you over and write speeding tickets of your black box.


The Gubmint will simply deduct the fee from your bank account.


20 posted on 08/12/2013 6:50:53 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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