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New RFID ‘Smart Guns’ May Be Used By Govt to Bypass Second Amendment
Story Leak ^ | July 18, 2013 | Anthony Gucciardi

Posted on 08/11/2013 9:07:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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A bit off topic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fVhVjJGvluQ


61 posted on 08/11/2013 11:40:02 PM PDT by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You know, as an example of government overreach and tyranny, I’ve been thinking about copiers (probably applies to printers too, not sure). Years ago, the feds made a requirement that all copiers have kind of a fingerprint. What a great way to shut down speech. The Founders obviously believed in anonymous speech - for example “Publius.” They said it was stop counterfeiting, but then why do they need to keep changing the bills? They just want to know what everyone is saying and doing. We are in a lowish-grade police state, most people just don’t realize how close we are to going full-scale Stasi.


62 posted on 08/11/2013 11:45:29 PM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: mylife

you may be within the bounds of the country... but you’re no longer in America


63 posted on 08/11/2013 11:48:26 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: DemforBush

‘LET’S ROCK!!!”


64 posted on 08/11/2013 11:52:54 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company after the election, & laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: sten
this should never be allowed

Agreed. It's one instance in which dumb is smart, at least for now.

65 posted on 08/11/2013 11:54:02 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Islam offers choices: convert, submit, or die.)
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To: mylife

That’s damned right.


66 posted on 08/11/2013 11:59:51 PM PDT by Trod Upon (Every penny given to film and TV media companies goes right into enemy coffers. Starve them out!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
And any thief will figure out how to take the Smart out of the weapon.
The Communists in America sure are trying hard to disarm our nation.

Shall not be infringed.

67 posted on 08/12/2013 12:18:10 AM PDT by MaxMax (If you're not pissed off, you're not paying attention)
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To: nvscanman
You can’t “bypass” rights....you can attempt to ignore,

You can't bypass rights, but I'd bet that any disabling technology could and would be bypassed.

68 posted on 08/12/2013 3:50:49 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: Sherman Logan

More like 500M by the time u toss in military surplus.


69 posted on 08/12/2013 4:00:00 AM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: mylife

I’m pretty sure that Herschel was featured in one of the Foxfire books - #5, I believe.


70 posted on 08/12/2013 5:00:57 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
If we think like lefties, there's unlimited potential here.

I mean, why not an RFID hammer? Or coffee cup? It's for safety and FOR THE CHILDREN so it must be done...

71 posted on 08/12/2013 5:44:36 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Now I have to put tinfoil on my firearm, too?!


72 posted on 08/12/2013 6:16:51 AM PDT by Paine in the Neck (Is John's moustache long enough YET?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

http://www.triggersmart.com/Pages/TriggerSmart.aspx

Going to the source: “RFID . . . technology will fit easily inside the handle of a gun. The second part of the system is the ability to create safe zones in certain areas such as schools where smart guns coming into the area will be disabled remotely.”

1. I don’t want to buy a weapon from anyone who puts technology in the “handle”. My lunchbox, back in elementary school, had a handle; real firearms have a grip or a stock.

2. I don’t think police want guns that can be remotely disabled, and I’m sure organized crime would learn to hack the TriggerSmartTrash so that it didn’t work around their people.

3. King Leonidas had the right answer to anyone who wants to disarm free men, and TriggerSmart is doublespeak for disarming us.


73 posted on 08/12/2013 7:33:11 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m a firearms manufacturer. I will not be building any “smart guns” with RFID technology. Not happening. If they demand it, I’m cutting off the Government completely.

Not tolerating their crap anymore.


74 posted on 08/12/2013 9:09:52 AM PDT by BCR #226 (02/07 SOT www.extremefirepower.com...The BS stops when the hammer drops.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They’ve been talking about this since the 1980’s.


75 posted on 08/12/2013 9:18:58 AM PDT by Nowhere Man ("The good times are over and someone has heisted the Kawasaki." - Me)
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To: bigbob

As I understand it, Smartguns are weapons with integral electronics that require authentication of the user (through a variety of possible mechanisms, one of which is a thumbprint) before it can be fired.

The weapon could contain a small reciever (RFID? I think the term is being misused here) that would simply throw a switch that would disable the authentication feature when a certain signal is sent. Result: inoperable weapon/paperweight.

Iirc they’ve also been looking at similar remote kill switch technologies for cars as a means of preventing high speed police chases.


76 posted on 08/12/2013 9:39:27 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: bunkerhill7

>>I`m goona build an RFID jammer that shuts off all govt guns.<<

What the probably have in mind is some way to destroy the sear or the firing pin when a particular frequency is within range at a certain wattage.


77 posted on 08/12/2013 10:17:37 AM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: DemforBush

>>The only Smart Gun I want is the one Vasquez is packing in Aliens. <<

Have you considered it might be more fun just to have the money to buy the ammo for is the gun Vasquez is packing in Aliens. <<


78 posted on 08/12/2013 10:19:44 AM PDT by B4Ranch (AGENDA: Grinding America Down ----- http://vimeo.com/63749370)
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To: null and void

guess the message is BUY NOW


79 posted on 08/12/2013 11:38:28 AM PDT by Nifster
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To: Charles Martel
The original cartridges are some sort of rimfire-centerfire hybrid, from back when those concepts were first being tinkered with. Looks like a giant rimfire round, but takes the hammer blow to the center.

Early cartridges had a primer mixture in the base, but if centerfire, may have used bar-anvil or Benet cup priming. Bar anvil uses a bar inside that the firing pin pinches the priming mixture against and have two crimps near the base of the cartridge case, opposite one another.

Benet cup primed cartridges used a cup shaped anvil in the base of the cartridge (similar concept) and had three crimps near the base of the cartridge about equally spaced around the circumfrence.

I have seen both varieties of cartridge case, found near Fort Buford in North Dakota, along with some of the swedged pocket primed and early centerfire removable primer systems close to what we use today.

80 posted on 08/12/2013 2:06:58 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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