Posted on 08/07/2013 9:07:17 AM PDT by MissTed
An apartment complex in Colorado has news for tenants: get rid of your guns, or get out. Colorado Apartment Building Tells Tenants They Have to Get Rid of Their Guns or Leave
Art Dorsch said he’ll either have to give up his guns or move out of his apartment. (Image source: KUSA-TV)
The Oakwood Apartments in Castle Rock, Colo. sent notice to residents last week of a new provision banning all “firearms and weapons” from the premises, KUSA-TV reported. Tenants have until Oct. 1 to comply.
Art Dorsch, a 77-year-old retired Marine Corps veteran, told KUSA he’s afraid he’ll lose his home if he doesn’t go along with the new rule. He’s a hunter and has a concealed carry permit.
Dorsch, who’s living on a fixed income, said managers told him he has three options: get rid of his guns and stay, keep his guns and move out voluntarily, or keep his guns and be forced out.
“It upsets me very much,” Dorsch told the station.
He said he keeps his guns secured in a safe and that having them makes him feel secure in his home.
“They want to take them all away from me, they say I can’t live here,” he said. Colorado Apartment Building Tells Tenants They Have to Get Rid of Their Guns or Leave
The Oakwood Apartments in Colorado sent notice to residents last week. (Image source: KUSA-TV)
KUSA legal analyst Scott Robinson said courts have generally supported landlords’ rights to impose “reasonable regulations” on their tenants.
“The question is: is an outright ban of firearms reasonable in light of the U.S. Constitution?” Robinson told KUSA.
The Ross Management Group, which manages the Oakwood Apartments, declined to comment to KUSA. Castle Rock is just south of Denver.
As the debate over gun control raged through the country, Colorado this year passed controversial new legislation limiting ammunition magazines and imposing universal background checks on all gun buyers.
July 20 marked the one-year anniversary since a shooter massacred 12 people and injured 70 at a movie theater in Aurora, Colo.
I agree with your analogy.
I’ve been trying to make the “two water fountain” analogy in California.
In every California gun store, you will find two water fountains. One fountain offers top quality clean water for our ruling class (LEO) and the other fountain dribbles out barely consumable water for the country class (me).
If they can force florists, printers and bed & breakfast owners to serve gay weddings then logic would dictate that what you said is true. Logic doesn’t dictate much anymore.
Or, simpler still.....
“I Won’t Resist!”
Wrong. While the First Amendment reads “Congress shall make no law ...”, the Second Amendment has no such qualification. It simply says “shall not be infringed.” It doesn’t specify by whom.
Yes, actually, it does.
Only government is restricted by the Bill of Rights.
As conservatives, we respect the right of property owners to do what they wish with their property, even if we dislike the outcome.
I am thinking of requiring my tenants to have guns......
All it takes is adding this to the new lease agreement. As the apartments come up for renewal the tenant must sign the new lease or move out.
Further - this is a private owner of the property that is imposing this limit. Not the government. He adds it to the contract - what choice can a law abiding citizen have but what the property owner is demanding?
I don’t like it - but seems the property owner is within their rights.
RE: Does the landlord have the right to say no to certain religions?
When it comes to a person’s private property, I would say he has the right to refuse business with any religion, race or gender or orientation NO MATTER HOW REPUGNANT I FIND HIM TO BE.
I will of course personally refuse to have to do anything with him (I could even publicly cal him to task and inform others what an abhorrent, disgusting person he is). He has to live with the consequences of his decision.
But I sure as hell will not want government to FORCE him to be kind to others. Using one form of evil (THE USE OF FORCE) to enforce kindness is not the way to change a person’s mind.
Heck, even Jesus Christ the creator of the universe, does not force others to receive Him as Lord and Savior.
But that is the essence of freedom... even the freedom to be cruel, racist and unkind.
Saying or doing something that “offends” someone is a crime these days, and more and more “offensive” things are added to the list daily.
Unkind, mean and racist is all in the eye of the beholder. I saw a car in the supermarket parking lot the other day plastered with Obama, PETA, Greenpeace, anti-fracking, anti-coal stickers on it. I consider all of those positions downright mean and evil. If that person had his way, I am sure he would want laws that FORCE the behavior of others. I don't want those laws, but plenty of others would think those laws would be nice to Mother Earth, but damn energy prices, coal miners and oil field workers.
Rachel Jeantel doesn't think "crazy ass cracker" is racist. I believe a majority of people in America would think it is. I don't want a law that prohibits people from saying cracker or nigger. Free speech has consequences. I'd say property rights have consequences as well.
I think the constitution does very good job and 98% of the laws that are the books are not needed. Just my two libertarian cents. I'd rather live with the consequences of my actions than forced behavior by government.
Just remember how many people have signed up at FreeRepublic, thinking because of the first amendment that they could say anything they wanted to say here and not get booted.
Was this in the SouthPark / Quail Hollow Road area?
Well stated.
Unfortunately gun owners are not protected persons under the Civil Rights Act. And like the 1st and 4th Amendments, the 2nd Amendment rights are only as against the government, not other private citizens.
Read the small print and I do mean small, on the agreement you have with your internet provider, I did. It seems that I agreed that they have the right to change the terms of the agreement anytime for any reason or none at all, with or without prior notice to me.
Probably something like that in the lease agreement.
That's nice but it don't mean squat if the tenants have a current and valid Lease in hand.
If the Lease comes up for renewal then the landlord(s) can stipulate whatever they want as concerns firearms on their premises. But with a contract in force? Tell them to go pound sand.
Scaleybark Road- it connects South Blvd and Woodlawn.
There is a fundamental right of free association. While I do not know any landowners that require membership in Greenpeace, I do know one that requires an NRA membership. It is a private Sportsman's club that I belong. I have no problem with that. If they would require a Greenpeace membership, then I would have a problem. But I am not going to crying to the nanny state for a new law. I will simply take my business elsewhere.
As for renting to Republicans and Democrats, that happens all the time. Landowners in cities rent to Democrats. Elsewhere they rent to Republicans. (Minor attempt at humor).
Original video story here: http://www.9news.com/news/article/348974/339/Apartment-tenants-told-they-must-get-rid-of-guns
The veteran talks about having to leave his guns with a friend who lives 30 miles away. Unfortunately, that’s illegal under the new unconstitutional CO law.
That’s what the 2 recalls and the Civil Rights lawsuit by the 65 CO sheriffs is about.
I live 20 miles from these apartments. It’s in a nice town, in a nice part of town, and in one of the most conservative counties in CO. And this county probably has the only rural school which regularly has a ‘God Bless America’ sign at it’s entrance.
It’s worth noting that the management doesn’t want to talk about this, and hung up on the reporter.
Public pressure is going to prevail because people in our county won’t put up with this kind on anti-American stuff, at least for now.
I notice the management Company is located in one of the more Leftist parts of the state.
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