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Posted on 08/06/2013 6:41:37 AM PDT by shove_it
Romney won the GOP nomination essentially be default:
Michelle Bachmann was still too much of a rookie and inexperienced.
Tim Pawlenty was unknown outside of his home state.
Ron Paul and Gary Johnson were running in the wrong party.
Newt Gingrich and Herman Cain were carrying enough personal baggage to sink the Titanic.
Rick Santorum lost his his senate seat by nearly 20 points, then high tailed it out of PA to become a DC lobbyist.
Rick Perry was the only person who had the background and experience to compete effectively with Romney....then came the debates...need I say more?
I am still of the firm belief that it wasn't the voters but rather the vote counters who determined who won the election. Remember the large/enormous rally for Romney the Sunday night before the election in a freezing field in Bucks County PA? Two days later, in that same county, if one checked the vote for Romney the screen came up showing Obama. The election officials assured the voter that their vote counted for Romney despite what the machine showed.
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All it took for the MSM to torpedo Perry was a momentary brain fart, yet The0ne spews lies with impunity.
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I agree with you. There was in fact MASSIVE voter fraud in the election. The Democrat vote in this country is enormously CONCENTRATED in compact one party urban areas where there is little or no bipartisan supervision and oversight at inner city polling places...providing many opportunities for fraud. And here in CA with millions of illegal aliens residing in this state, you would think they would at a minimum require a photo ID when voting.
Whether or not the voter fraud was massive enough to change the outcome of the election, we will never know. However we do know that changing demographic factors combined with an increasing number of people dependent on government largesse, and fewer taxpayers have given the Democrat Party enormous structural advantages in recent years.
Right...
Balz’s book should have been titled “Collusion 2012”...
Are there any other products that you’re good with the government putting a gun to your head and forcing you to buy?
At least a portion of Romneycare was paid for through reallocation of Medicaid dollars, and IIRC the state recently got about $26 billion from the Feds for three years to keep it afloat. Also IIRC, Romney worked hand in glove with none other than Ted Kennedy to get that Fed funding at the time Romneycare was done. I’ll look for a cite if you would like.
Saying Romneycare was done without a tax increase seems a bit odd given that information. As is so often the case with programs like this, it’s just reaching into a different part of your pocket to pay for it.
FRAUD
Could you please be specific? When talking about the government, are you talking about state government or federal government? If you are talking about the federal government, it’s activities are SUPPOSED to be limited by the contraints of the US Constitution. Had the SCOTUS followed the US Constitition, they would have declared Obamacare unconstitutional within five minutes.
The states....on the other hand....can do pretty much whatever they want. They can create their own state constitutions. They can experiment with medical care issues. A state such as Vermont, if wanted to, could even enact a single payer health insurance like they have in Canada. Not that I would like or approve such of a system. But the point is this: Our government and Constitution was originally set up to give state and local government the most power and authority. Unfortunately since the New Deal of the 1930s, there has been an enormous shift away from state and local government to the federal government....and the US Constitution....particularly the 10th Amendment, routinely ignored.
What Romneycare basically did was this: Instead of handing out Medicaid to people without health insurance...it helped them puchase private health insurance on a sliding scale depending on income. The intent of Romneycare....whether you like it or not....was to prevent the uninsured from gaming the system and leaving hospitals and taxpayers stuck with the tab? The intent was stop the free riding and require people to take some responsibility for their healthcare. Do you think someone who goes into a hospital and receives care and treatment should be allowed to walk away from their bill and leave the hospital and eventually the taxpayer stuck with the tab. NOT saying Romneycare was perfect and that I agree with every bit of it. There were in fact many provisions added to it over Romney’s vetoes which I would never agree to. However the intent of Romneycare was to end all of the mooching and free riding at the expense of others.
Yep, I guess my anger and disgust towards the 2012 ticket hasn’t dissipated one single iota. One other outshoot of that whole rancid campaign is not just my disaffection and distrust towards the GOP, but it also led me to give up on cable-news, most talk-radio, and even drop most politics-oriented internet sites I used to visit.
I’d been a news/politics junkie for well over thirty years, but something about the 2012 campaign and the two years leading up to it just killed that. Killed it dead. Whether it was the GOP-E turning left and pushing that bastard Romney, or the backstabbing betrayal of Palin and the tea-party, I’m just transitioning out of giving a damn about anything anymore.
At the end of the day does it really matter which level of government is treating you like it’s bitch? I don’t care what building that bad Bruce Campbell impersonator sat in at the time. He signed a bill into law that forced people at gunpoint to buy a product from people who contributed to his campaigns. Anyone who does something like that is an a**hole.
bfl
And what you you call a person who doesn’t bother to purchase health insurance, walks into a hospital, receives care and treatment, and then leaves the taxpayers stuck with the bill?
THANKS for the props.....
Sure, he got slammed by dirty tricks. Romney had to debate two opponents where Obama only had to debate one. SEIU bartenders were secretly recording Romney's "private" donor meetings. The MSM played "gotcha" games with down-ballot candidates in several states.
But Romney also failed to nationalize his campaign. He didn't extend coattails into the states and advocate a national ticket. This is reflected in the failure of Republicans to retake the Senate after peaking just before the convention. If Romney had followed a strategy of campaigning with the state candidates for Senate and focus a message on forming a team to "fix" Washington if only voters would sweep out the old and support a new crew, he might have gotten the final voters to turn out.
BTW, I do think that more voters did turn out for Romney, but that their votes were "lost" in the counting.
-PJ
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