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Relating to Mitt Romney: An insider’s look at how the GOP lost the 2012 election
Yahoo ^ | 6 Aug 2013 | Jeff Zeleny, Richard Coolidge, and Jordyn Phelps

Posted on 08/06/2013 6:41:37 AM PDT by shove_it

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To: shove_it
No matter what Mitt would have tried, it wouldn't have mattered. The DNC and Obama2012 stayed active in all the precincts that mattered in the states that really mattered ever since 2008. In the meantime, the RNC had an identity problem because they had a black leader that sucked and wanted to replace him with another leader that also sucked, but was white. Once they took care of that, they decided to spend their money on stacking the deck in Mitt's favor at every turn in the primary race that the RNC should have been keeping fair for all candidates. There is something very twisted about a candidate having to raise money just to fight money being used against them that they have all helped raise for the RNC. When you start getting those letters for donations to the RNC in the next few years, think about that before reaching for your credit card or check book.
41 posted on 08/06/2013 7:05:53 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: greene66

Why don’t you tell us how you really feel, greene? :)

Yes, I am just as enraged. Romney’s Chick-fil-A comment was unconscionable and degrading. I already knew he was this kind of “man,” but that comment reveal the truth to the whole world. I’m sure he lost at least 2 million conservative votes at that very moment.


42 posted on 08/06/2013 7:06:10 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: greene66
Two Roosters don't make a hen.
43 posted on 08/06/2013 7:06:58 AM PDT by Baynative (Lord, keep your arm around my shoulder and your hand over my mouth.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
He was also a Mormon.

When it came to running his campaign, you can remove one of the "m's".

44 posted on 08/06/2013 7:07:51 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: fwdude
That's because he pretty much agreed with Obama.

And we're probably better off that Mitt lost, seeing as he was only slightly less lib than 0bama. Stuff is starting to stick to The Teflon One now, Mitt would have been blasted by everybody.

45 posted on 08/06/2013 7:08:18 AM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us about 0bama's America)
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To: shove_it

If your focus is to ‘humanize’ a candidate, you’ve already lost. That’s all they did for four months, and it failed in tremendous fashion. Romney was actually our most polished, president-like candidate since Bush 41, but they bought into all the left’s traps...that Obama could not be criticized because he is uber-popular, and that the campaign need to ‘humanize’ their candidate rather than present a policy plan to make people’s lives better.

I remember Rush and others scoffing last fall at the concept of ‘humanizing’ him. What a joke. They ran the completely wrong campaign. It was clearly obvious from July forward. The convention was blah blah boring, trying to ‘prove’ we don’t hate minorities (which also didn’t work).

What a fiasco...and then the DC idiots turn around and blame conservatives.


46 posted on 08/06/2013 7:09:19 AM PDT by ilgipper (Obama is proving that very bad ideas can be wrapped up in pretty words)
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To: shove_it

We lost because we ran Romney.

Period.


47 posted on 08/06/2013 7:10:53 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (8/30/10, the day Truth won.)
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To: shove_it

RomneyCare IS 0bamaCare.

How could we mount an effective attack?


48 posted on 08/06/2013 7:12:54 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Where's my pressure cooker backpack wmd ricin laced al qaeda terrorist BASSELOPE?)
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To: shove_it
And we're probably better off that Mitt lost, seeing as he was only slightly less lib than 0bama. Stuff is starting to stick to The Teflon One now, Mitt would have been blasted by everybody.

As ironic as that statement is, I agree with it wholeheartedly. Most republicans, especially conservatives, know to oppose the blatant liberal that Obama is. Romney would have gotten token support by default from most Republicans and many Democrats, ushering in the same liberal policies with less opposition.

49 posted on 08/06/2013 7:13:23 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: shove_it
This isn't rocket science. The RNC bosses manipulate the 2012 GOP primary races in such a way as to ensure Romney wins, offering America a candidate who spends half his allotted time during the debates saying "I agree with you, mister president" to Obama and has to be 'humanized' by his handlers. Gee, what could possibly go wrong?

The simple truth is that Romney, whatever his attributes, and he had some, was the wrong candidate in 2012. He was far too liberal for conservatives and did a poor job of hiding his contempt for them. That, along with the media acting as Obama's PR organization and the massive voter fraud (changing demographics are also a factor worth noting) pretty much ensured Romney's defeat. One other factor: although Romney's Mormon religion may have been an almost subliminal negative for him, the fact that many 'low-information voters' didn't want to think of themselves as rejecting The First Black President was likely another factor in Romney's failure to win.

50 posted on 08/06/2013 7:21:27 AM PDT by Jim Scott
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To: dirtboy

In the Republican primaries Romney was a bare fisted brawler that took no prisoners. He was ruthless. In the election he was milk toast. Nice guys finish last in an election with the exception of Ronald Reagan. Reagan destroyed his opponents with humor and logical conservative principles.


51 posted on 08/06/2013 7:21:29 AM PDT by cpdiii (Deckhand, Roughneck, Mud Man, Geologist, Pilot, Pharmacist. THE CONSTITUTION IS WORTH DYING FOR!)
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To: dfwgator
When it came to running his campaign, you can remove one of the "m's".

You can say that again, LOL. As for thinking on his feet, he had a tough time handling Candy Crowley.

52 posted on 08/06/2013 7:21:31 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pearls Before Swine

You are correct. A lot of people said they’d never vote for a Mormon and they were pooh pooed.


53 posted on 08/06/2013 7:23:13 AM PDT by stellaluna
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To: Diogenesis

Contrary too popular spin, Romneycare had little to do with Obamacare. Here are the differences:

Romneycare was custom designed to meet the needs of just one state, not a one size fits all program for the entire nation.

In MA, before Romneycare was enacted, just 8% of the population lacked health coverage. These folks in the 8%, however, were helping drive up costs for the 92% who had health coverage. The uninsured would walk into hospitals and clinics, receive treatment, care, and surgery, and then leave the taxpayers stuck with the tab. Romneycare did put an end to that. Yes it did require every person in MA to have health coverage. States CAN mandate insurance-—the federal government CANNOT (despite the SCOTUS ruling, assuming the 10th Amendment is still valid). If states can require that we have auto insurance, they can require that we have health insurance. Another huge difference between Obamacare and Romneycare.

Romneycare did mandate everyone have health coverage in MA. For those who could not afford it, Romneycare redirected funds ALREADY allocated to the state through Medicaid (they got permission from the Bush Administration) to help low income people purchase PRIVATE health insurance coverage. Romneycare (unlike Obamacare) did not raise taxes, nor did it expand the size and scope of the state government-—another HUGE difference with Obamacare. Romneycare did not impact the 92% of the population that already had health coverage. It only impacted the 8% who were mooching off the taxpayers. Romney care was not tax and spend like Obamacare is. Romneycare did not raise taxes. Romneycare did not spend new money. Romneycare did reallocate funds from Medicaid to help low income people buy private health insurance.

Popular spin is that Romneycare begat Obamacare. Nothing could be further from the truth. Romneycare was all about one state and one state alone grappling with the problem of the uninsured and freeloaders gaming the system. By the time it was all said and done, nearly 100% of the people in MA had health coverage, all done without raising taxes or increased government spending. Romneycare in that sense was the polar opposite of Obamacare.


54 posted on 08/06/2013 7:29:13 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: shove_it

Too many “insiders”. They need to start observing America from outside the boardroom.


55 posted on 08/06/2013 7:33:45 AM PDT by CodeToad (Liberals are bloodsucking ticks. We need to light the matchstick to burn them off. -786 +969)
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To: Diogenesis
To this day, Mr. RomneyCARE is the reason the GOP will never, on its own, remove ObamaCARE/RomneyCARE.

It is clearly evident while listening to member of of the Gelding Old Party say to DEFUND OBAMCARE is suicide.

IF NOT NOW, WHEN?

The GOP must be reduced to 3rd party status and start losing elections while a NEW CONSERVATIVE/LIBERTY party is born. That is the only thing that will fix this one party mess - currently our choices are to vote RAT and RAT-Lite in Presidential races. There are many good conservatives in the House - and a few in the Senate - but they are connected with the RAT-Lite party and must realign themselves. The RAT-Lite party hates these conservatives - you witnessed it this week with Christie attacking Rand Paul. Cruz has been crucified by his own party.
56 posted on 08/06/2013 7:34:24 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
Contrary too popular spin, Romneycare had little to do with Obamacare. Here are the differences:

Public perception is EVDERYTHING in an election when LIV rule the day.
57 posted on 08/06/2013 7:36:09 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
Contrary to your attempt at re-writing history,
the despicable Mr. RomneyCARE personally imposed BOTH gay marriage
(against the Mass. Constitution, but he is a carpetbagger)
and RomneyCARE which IS socialized medicine
and has ruined normal (previous) medical care
and raised rates, and decreased the number of docs.

YOU ARE THERE

THE IMPOSITION OF OBAMACARE/ROMNEYCARE
AND DEATH PANELS BY MYTH ROMNEY.


58 posted on 08/06/2013 7:36:55 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: shove_it

he also had help from Santorum and Bachman in the primary debates.

If those two hadn’t run, Romney would never have been the nominee


59 posted on 08/06/2013 7:37:37 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: Cheerio

I do agree with that-—public perception-—that is Washington created spin drove the narrative that Romneycare was similar to Obamacare.

Truth is Romneycare tried to put an end to moochers and freeriders gaming the system, driving up costs on everyone else and requiring people to take responsibility for their own health care. And it did so in a fiscally responsible manner without raising taxes or increasing spending. It redirected funds from Medicaid to accomplish this——NOT Medicare.


60 posted on 08/06/2013 7:43:44 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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