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To: SeekAndFind

I would prefer to save the pensions by cutting them. I don’t want them eliminated, just like I wouldn’t vote to eliminate Social Security (in the short term). Too many elderly people are dependent on it.

It’s pretty clear that many states have promised more than they can afford. Do you cut existing services so that you can continue to pay ridiculously generous pension payments to retirees? It’s either settle for less or get nothing. That’s the choice facing many government pensioners in the near future.


2 posted on 08/05/2013 3:10:22 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Why celebrate evil? Evil is easy. Good is the goal worth striving for.)
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To: CitizenUSA

The best thing to do is to eliminate pensions altogether and incentivize the system so people may be able to support themselves until they die. Even if it meant moving a person down the food chain, and pay, to account for their gradual reduction in abilities over time.


4 posted on 08/05/2013 3:19:32 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: CitizenUSA
Do you cut existing services so that you can continue to pay ridiculously generous pension payments to retirees?

Are you asking me or the gutless politicians? Reminder: the largest voting block is the retirees. As the baby boomers continue to retire or try to, this block will continue to grow. We live in interesting times.

8 posted on 08/05/2013 3:39:01 PM PDT by VRW Conspirator (The Lefties can drink Kool-Aid; I will drink Tea.)
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To: CitizenUSA
It’s pretty clear that many states have promised more than they can afford. Do you cut existing services so that you can continue to pay ridiculously generous pension payments to retirees? It’s either settle for less or get nothing. That’s the choice facing many government pensioners in the near future.

This is a disaster of their own making; the elected moron "leaders" and the union no-limit greed types. The elected criminals know they will be long gone and (hopefully) forgotten when the day of reckoning arrives.
The greedy thugs will whine and threaten and scream that a contract is a contract!" Lost on them both is that once upon a time, any contract which is inherently impossible to satisfy is null and void. Viewing the taxpayer as a bottomless money pit is an assumption so asinine, ignorant and arrogant that it should be a felony!

Limit the "public service" employee union retirements to a few percentage points lower than the private market exact equivalent and force the incompetent and indolent to make do with what they are worth, or have real competency exams for every level of public service, including teachers.

12 posted on 08/05/2013 3:50:31 PM PDT by publius911 (Look for the Union label, then buy something else.)
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To: CitizenUSA

Sorry we had to cut your pension in half, but here is a free house in Detroit.


14 posted on 08/05/2013 3:51:05 PM PDT by GeronL
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To: CitizenUSA
I would prefer to save the pensions by cutting them. I don’t want them eliminated, just like I wouldn’t vote to eliminate Social Security (in the short term). Too many elderly people are dependent on it.

I would; but that's because I'm a heartless bastard.
(Or, rather, that I think continuing the extortionate ponzi-scheme [after all there is the threat of death or loss of liberty if you don't pay] in any way is grave injustice. The money is gone, and why? because the older generation[s] did not mandate it should be responsibly handled.)

20 posted on 08/05/2013 5:33:01 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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