I agree, but that's not what you claimed. You even threw up a bunch of photos from the police manhunt after the Boston Marathon bombing to 'prove' your point that the American people will not resist a U.S. force of jack booted thugs sent to militarily suppress them.
That was disingenuous on your part, because the people of Boston voluntarily complied with what was, at the time, a government force sent to protect their lives and safety. Had that same force been sent to subjugate them through violent measures, you would have seen an entirely different response.
I will posit that the closest analog to what would happen in a martial law scenario, is the response of the thirteen colonies to the repression of the British Crown. It's not a perfect comparison, but I believe the energy and dynamics would be very similar.
In fact, they'd be much worse for the ruling class this time around, due to the fact that their jack boots would be ordered to exert violence against their fellow citizens. In the time of the revolution, the British forces probably considered the colonists to be 'the other'.
Not so with American forces of today. Their loyalties would be instantly torn by such an order, which would automatically produce mutiny up and down the ranks, and across every branch of service. An effort to impose martial law would more than likely stall right there.
But I digress. I'm addressing your original contention here, which I believe is faulty. Any attempt to subjugate the American people by force, will be met with an historic level of armed resistance. Given the lopsided odds, I wouldn't want to be a federal jack boot when it goes down. It won't end well for them.
If it ever even happens at all, which I seriously doubt.
Those pictures speak to that particular point more accurately than anything I can write. The American people ALREADY have proven they will not resist every effort to suppress and subjugate them - From Watertown to TSA checkpoints to Safety checkpoints to dynamic SWAT entries by cops without warrants claiming exigent circumstances - the American people suffer such evil - WILLINGLY.
You wanna fly anywhere? Then we have to be willing to be humiliated, stripped, searched, and be herded like cattle through security checkpoints.
Wanna drive anywhere? The we have to be willing to be stopped, questioned, searched and be herded like cattle through security checkpoints.
You getting any of this yet? Is it sinking in to how far we've already fallen?
That was disingenuous on your part, because the people of Boston voluntarily complied with what was, at the time, a government force sent to protect their lives and safety.
You just made my entire point by your statement. History teaches that every despotic leader and regime subjugating their own people was ALWAYS done under the guise of safety and security.
We are ALREADY being conditioned to live under militarized occupation as those pictures I posted above prove without question. You are free to call it compliance for security or whatever you want. Those SWAT teams did NOTHING to keep those Watertown residents safe, and in fact they did not locate the Jihadists there at all. Those brothers were found by ACCIDENT and blind sheer luck.
Had ANYONE dared to demand a warrant and refused entry to their home in Watertown - they would have been shot, bagged and tagged and everyone would have applauded what a great job the cops did to keep everyone safe. Same thing the Gestapo was able to do with impunity and applause. I'm sure there are stories of the NKVD and the Stasi having similar abilities and stories.
If you want to go pretend that the American people will resist being under military subjugation - be my guest. Those Watertown pictures prove to me, that if its done under the color of law or in the name of safety and security - this people will readily submit to whatever is demanded of them and they'll never even realize it's the same as if they were subjugated violently - the end result is the same.
In fact, they'd be much worse for the ruling class this time around, due to the fact that their jack boots would be ordered to exert violence against their fellow citizens. In the time of the revolution, the British forces probably considered the colonists to be 'the other'.
In the mid 1860's - our government had no problem sending troops to invade other states, and families had no problem taking up arms against one another and exerting extreme violence. So I do not know where this idea that such a horror could never happen here again, comes from. Cognitive dissonance I guess.
Not so with American forces of today. Their loyalties would be instantly torn by such an order, which would automatically produce mutiny up and down the ranks, and across every branch of service. An effort to impose martial law would more than likely stall right there.
You are making a gross mis-assumption. DHS, and Obama's army will have no such scruples. Neither will all the other alphabets. Given what Obama has done with the gay issue in the military and the ROE in the sandboxes - I'd be careful about putting your faith in yet another corrupted institution or assume a desperate and hungry military will not follow orders for the promise of bread, same as the rest.
In fact, if you talk to any current or recent Army or Marine serviceperson, they will tell you that an American military base stateside is the most disarmed place they could ever be. I'm told it is to prevent any chance of a military coup from taking place. The protocols for sidearms and weaponry on military personnel is so ridiculous and stringent that it is no wonder to me why that Jihadist at Fort Hood chose that place to wage his terrorism. As I was told, American military bases Stateside are "gun-free zones" except on the firing line - and those caches are more heavily guarded than anything else.
Any attempt to subjugate the American people by force, will be met with an historic level of armed resistance. Given the lopsided odds, I wouldn't want to be a federal jack boot when it goes down. It won't end well for them.
You're assuming Obama is just going to one day declare martial law and give shoot-to-kill orders for lack of obeisance. Doesn't work that way. The American people are ALREADY being conditioned to accept force and the threat of force for 'safety' and security reasons. How many pets get shot by militarized cops nowadays? How about terrorized residents who are unfortunate to get trigger happy cops kicking down their doors at a wrong house call or because some cop declares an exigent circumstance? DUI and sobriety checkpoints? Papers Please?
Do you honestly believe we are not already being conditioned to be subjugated? People cheer it. I just heard that Eric Holder put in a request to take over Apple Computer and run their iTunes store because Obama contends they are ripping people off. Who is going to stop that when they do so?
What about when they declare your church a bunch of child molesters and terrorists? You think anyone is going to come to defend you when the tanks and APCs show up?
Under the guise of safety and security - the people will applaud their subjugation, and even go so far as to say the armed jackboots are there to protect their lives and safety.
Human nature is one that prefers slavery to liberty. The government did not get this large and powerful because people love liberty. They love security and the notion of safety and will surrender birthrights for such. When hungry they will sell it for the promise of soup.
Human nature and history are speaking to these issues. It does not serve us at all to ignore them and beat our chests with bravado when there is plenty for us to consider the ground upon which we stand and our enemy is occupying.