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WARNING: Someone is Trying to Set Up Liberty Activists Using Child Porn
Oath Keepers Website ^ | 08/03/2013 | Stewart Rhodes

Posted on 08/04/2013 1:52:33 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe

This a warning to all of our members, readers, supporters, and to the general liberty movement.

Please be extremely careful with email, and do not open any attachments from anyone who you don’t know, or from any suspicious email, such as tormail. And even if it seems to be from someone you know, take the time to read the email address carefully, to see if it is from a Tormail account, or other anonymous email service. It could be someone impersonating someone you know, to trick you into opening files with child-porn on them.

No one here at Oath Keepers uses tormail or any other anonymous email service, so if you see an email purporting to be from Oath Keepers, or from anyone in leadership at Oath Keepers, from such an email service, do not open it.

There have been a string of anonymous attacks on liberty activists, all attempting to trick people into opening email attachments containing child-porn. We know of at least four such attempts within the past few weeks.

The first was when someone emailed Luke Rudkowski, Founder of We Are Change and tried to trick him into opening attached jpeg files containing child porn. Luke was able to use the “view” function of his email to see that the images were child porn and he did not open them.

Then, someone using a tormail account tried to do the same thing to Dan Johnson, Founder of People Against the NDAA (PANDA). Whoever emailed Dan Johnson pretended to be me, Stewart Rhodes, but using a Tormail account. Fortunately, Dan knew that I don’t use Tormail, and therefore he did not open the attachments. Instead, he had a computer security expert examine the files, and that expert determined that they contained child porn. You can read more about that attack, and watch a video we made about it, here.

Well, a few days later it happened again, to two other liberty activists we know. They have chosen, for the time being, to not go public about it, in the hopes that the FBI will have a better chance of catching the perp. All of us have reported these incidents to the FBI, through attorney Sue Basko.

Sue has written a very well done description of what happened, what we did to report it, and some important advice on how you can keep from being victimized by whoever is doing this. Here is an excerpt of that tutorial. Please take her advice to heart, and be very careful online.

Stewart Rhodes


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: childporn; libertymovement; oathkeepers; setup
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To the Godless evil left, the end always justifies the means.
1 posted on 08/04/2013 1:52:33 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe
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To: MikeSteelBe

Porn sites can also be downloaded onto your phone, without your knowledge.


2 posted on 08/04/2013 2:10:18 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: MikeSteelBe
do not open any attachments from anyone who you don’t know

Wish caution to avoid was this simple. There are also emails being disguised to appear as if the email came from someone one would know. Lots of emails have been appearing which appear perfectly legit but are not. Have been encountering what would appear to be perfectly legit emails till opening and finding out the email was not from whom was led to believe by appearance. Then backtracking has to take place.

3 posted on 08/04/2013 2:10:19 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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one addition bit of information ... these types of emails have been making their way into the system for nearly ten years.


4 posted on 08/04/2013 2:13:43 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: MikeSteelBe

didn’t the FBI or something get caught trying to upload kiddie porn on some organizations computers, not long ago??


5 posted on 08/04/2013 2:15:26 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: MikeSteelBe

There is a good chance that it was Obama’s FBI that did this, so reporting to them is probably fruitless


6 posted on 08/04/2013 2:18:08 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: MikeSteelBe

NSA?


7 posted on 08/04/2013 2:26:57 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (I don't always vote, but when I do, I SURE AS HELL DON'T VOTE DEMOCRAT!)
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To: MikeSteelBe
The Obama Administration is behind this. Be very careful with the FBI. My guess is that the emails originate in a foreign country and that the emails will not be traced by the FBI but your members will and up on some list.

This is what America has sunk to in the age of Obama.

8 posted on 08/04/2013 3:19:24 AM PDT by detective
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To: GeronL
reporting to them is probably fruitless

Except that if you keep a record of the report, it makes prosecution pretty difficult for them.

I did this 15 years ago, when I kept receiving email with kiddie porn in it from an address in the Netherlands. Never heard any more about it.

9 posted on 08/04/2013 3:37:24 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: MikeSteelBe

Well it used to be messages from someone who is traveling abroad pleading for cash. Looks like that has change.


10 posted on 08/04/2013 3:38:40 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: MikeSteelBe

One final bit of information and I’ll be quiet. Began noticing about ten years ago emails coming in that had the full email address of person one suspected was legit but was not the case. Want to be clear ... the email had the full CORRECT email address of the person sending and was using the email as a trap. This occurred on what was thought to be secure email by the parties send out the phony email. Everything looked legit till opening. The best suggestion is to view, as was stated by Oath Keepers the email with opening the email to determine if the email is legit. Takes more time but is well worth the effort. One final bit of information ... If an email is in question of being legit, call the supposed sender to verify or email and ask.


11 posted on 08/04/2013 3:39:50 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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my apology ... with opening the email should be WITHOUT opening the email. Huge error from me. Dang, need more coffee.


12 posted on 08/04/2013 3:42:09 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: MikeSteelBe
to not go public about it, in the hopes that the FBI will have a better chance of catching the perp.

Good laugh here for an early Sunday morning.....OJ: "I'm gonna investigate and find out who killed Nicole [fist bang on table]"

13 posted on 08/04/2013 3:50:41 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: GeronL

This is exactly the sort of thing I thought about when the news of government demanding password lists popped up a week or so back.

They could send child porn or anything else from your email address.


14 posted on 08/04/2013 4:01:21 AM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: no-to-illegals

I have had SPAM sent from what was supposed to be my own email address... did they not think I would be suspicious? Sometimes I send myself stuff, they must have gotten a list of emails I received from somewhere.

My email address was temporarily hacked a couple years back from the Dominican Republic (or via that country) so I suspect it was them.


15 posted on 08/04/2013 4:04:33 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: cripplecreek

bump

A couple weeks back wasn’t there word of an undercover agent trying to infect someones computer with kiddie porn?


16 posted on 08/04/2013 4:08:41 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: cripplecreek

Nope it was crack

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3048019/posts


17 posted on 08/04/2013 4:09:33 AM PDT by GeronL
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To: GeronL

Thanks GeronL. Your information is always Great.


18 posted on 08/04/2013 4:10:36 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: MikeSteelBe
that expert determined that they contained child porn.

I understand why they did this, but that sentence just sounds odd.

19 posted on 08/04/2013 4:12:47 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: GeronL

If you’re getting “spam” from yourself, you should be concerned that your computer has been compromised by a botnet. Botnets were created to send spam in order to get around IP level blocking. Leaving your computer on and connected to the internet at all times with no firewall or poor security invites this. “They” don’t think anything, their level of care is right up there with a credit card thief who will run up online charges to the card with a sketchy delivery address until denied, then the whole thing gets deleted. Complaining to the site sending the spam will only make it worse, since you verify that it’s an active e-mail address, same with phone calls, they’re coming from offshore, not under this jurisdiction, so what do they care about our laws.


20 posted on 08/04/2013 4:17:25 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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