[fr_freak]

Giving these people an appearance of being, somehow, equal with Christianity in no way supports our cause, but rather gives them ammunition to claim that they are Christian just like us, even as they drag souls to hell with their abominable teachings.

First, I never said anything about Mormons being equal to Christians. In fact, my whole point was that they DON'T HAVE TO BE EQUAL to Christians to be our natural allies IN THIS FIGHT. I would remind you, that when Prop 8 in California was up on the ballot (the referendum to define marriage as between one man and one woman), it was largely the money and effort of the Mormon church that got the votes for prop 8 to pass (which was then illegally invalidated by the leftwing courts, but that is irrelevant for this discussion). The Catholic Church do nearly as much, the Protestants didn't do nearly as much - that victory for God was won largely by the Mormons. Yet, you would advocate spurning their efforts because they have a different definition of God than Christians.

Well, if you want to get specific, Catholics and protestants have slightly different definitions of God as well. I'm going to guess that you're a member of an Evangelical sect (or a troll), in which case you probably hate Catholics and accuse them of worshiping Mary etc. etc. Are you going to refuse to support any Catholic efforts to protect and defend God's principles because you think they engage in idolatry as well? If so, then your list of allies gets pretty thin, and if we all thought like you, we would guarantee ourselves to lose this battle, and the war. If you're wondering why I keep bringing up the possibility of your being a troll, it is because I think you know this and want to sow discord among natural allies.

Just in case you aren't a troll, I'm going to attempt to make you understand this point one more time (I notice you've been avoiding addressing it): we should support Card (and anyone else) when he is on the right side of the Lord. We could disagree with everything else he believes, but if he says publicly that homosexuality is wrong and should be condemned as deviant, WE SHOULD SUPPORT HIM IN THIS EFFORT. If he later says that we should all join the Mormon Church, then we should disagree with him. Heck, if an atheist calls out homosexuality as deviant sexual behavior, we should support him in that effort. What you are advocating is worse than silly.

[Greetings_Puny_Humans]

Tennessee Nana, who knows more on this subject than I do, wrote this previously on the topic of the LDS and Prop 8:

“the Mormons had to have something to occupy their time since their fair haired boy Willard had been beaten by the big bad apostate Senator McCain..

so they looked around for something that would pass as “busy work”

and lo and behold, the Baptists had been working for years in California to pass a law against gay marriage...

the legislation wasnt quite ready and 2008 was not the year to try it but what the hey who cared it would do as a cover...

(and make the Willard the “moderate progressive” (his own words) seem “conservative” and the Mormons along with him)

so the Mormons muscled into the Baptists project andf took over insisting on throwing the raw material out into the winds of chance...

They werent intending to really help the “gentile” Christians, or pass any legislation, they just wanted to hide and have a cover...

anything but be exposed as refusing to help McCain get elected And beat a “black man”

Yes kid, the Mormons threw MILLIONS and many man hours at California knowing that Prop 8 couldn’t pass as is or if it did squeak by it was doomed to be overturned i nb the courts...

The Mormons wrestled the projust from the quite capable Christians and destroyed the careful work of years...

The whole aim was to avoid helping McCain get elected and beat their Mormon guy to the White House...

Shades of George Romney who in 1964 taught the Mormons how to stomp on the Republican and aid the Democrat...

and that dear kiddies is the rest of the story...”

(Copied and pasted from one of Nana’s posts on the matter, though don’t have the link just now)

I’ll also add that Mitt Romney’s support of gays in the boyscout, and his getting permission by the LDS to take a pro-abortion stance in Mass., pretty much nullifies even having the LDS around as useful servants of our cause. They are not even reliable political friends, as the motivations and actions of the LDS leadership revolves around benefiting themselves and the promotion of their cult.

“First, I never said anything about Mormons being equal to Christians. In fact, my whole point was that they DON’T HAVE TO BE EQUAL to Christians to be our natural allies IN THIS FIGHT. “

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I never said that you said anything about Mormons being equal to Christians. I said that using the Mormons to fight social battles gives the appearance that they are equal and accepted by Christianity. You might as well, at this point, cast out devils by Beelzebub or Belial.

[Ripliancum]

I’ll extend your analogy even more. Glenn Beck brings many to conservative causes and fights for Godly liberty and freedom. Against great odds, he fights the good fight. Now, even though he is a Mormon, there are decent and rational people who are not of his faith who don’t care his personal convictions, but side with him on natural moral grounds that they both share. It’s obvious there are some here who would spurn everything Glenn Beck stands for because of his faith. I am glad you are not among them throwing stones. Thank you.

[Elsie]

First, I never said anything about Mormons being equal to Christians. In fact, my whole point was that they DON'T HAVE TO BE EQUAL to Christians to be our natural allies IN THIS FIGHT.

I understand this.

But there is a GREATER 'fight' going on than being a homo...

[Elsie]

Well, if you want to get specific, Catholics and protestants have slightly different definitions of God as well.

Oh??

Color us BOTH surprised to find THIS out!