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To: i_robot73
Sorry, but WHAT ‘need’? If we ran the Republic as it SHOULD be run, there would be NO need for E-Verify and the like.

Immigration is one of the duties of the federal government.  It devises the policies and enforces them.  Under Article Four, Section Four it says the states shall be protected from invasion.

The federal government has every right to regulate access to our nation, and to devise laws and enforce them.  The employer mandate is constitutional.  It is in accordance the mentioned Article and Section mentioned above.

Even when the border was being enforced as it should have been, we have always had problems with illegals taking jobs.  E-Verify brings that to a screeching halt.

The only thing that would matter would be the contract between employer and employee.

Employers do not supercede the duty of the federal government to oversee immigration, devise immigraton policy, and enforce immigration policy.

There are NO ‘American jobs’; they do not belong to anyone BUT the employer; the one who will pay the wage (and fed. extortion of taxes and the like).


The workforce in the United States is made up of Citizens of the United States, or others as per the discression of the federal government.  The federal government has every right to oversee who works in the United States.

It is part of the immigration policies of the United States.  The federal government has a vested interest in making sure the nation is not over-run by foreign nationals.  It has a vested interest in making sure regions of our naiton do not become Balkanized.  The federal government is supposed to make sure the general welfare of the U. S. Citizen comes first, over the citizens of other nations.

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70 posted on 08/04/2013 12:55:43 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Kill the bill... Begin enforcing our current laws, signed by President Ronald Reagan.)
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To: DoughtyOne

Let’s presume for a moment your points are correct (IE: gov’t can regulate whom is hired when/where). And excuse me outright, I’m going to be all over the place I suspect.

Questions:
1) Does a Citizen need permission from gov’t to earn a living/work?
2) Does gov’t have the authority to determine what businesses are (in)valid for the Citizens? We see this Fascism (IE: biz licensee). Just look at the medallions for cab co. in NY and the like, liquor license fees, environmental impact studies, red tape, gov’t, regulations, etc.
3) How does the gov’t verify the validity of the possibly-to-be employee? SSN (a program that is Unconstitutional and already mission-creep’d leaps and bounds beyond its intended purpose)?? Passport? Drivers license (another gov’t encroachment on free travel, IMHO)? Utility bills?
4) By what authority does gov’t have to enforce whom is hired, but not what the min. wage will be? What ‘benefits’ will be offered? etc. etc. etc.?

Did I imply the employer is above the gov’t? No, I did not. What I did state is that it is NOT up to the employer to validate the Fed. gov’t is (not) doing its job.

Is not employment a contract? “Here is what I am willing to offer for services (work) rendered”? A1S10 specifically states contracts are to be enforced (yes, only when entered into by willing participants, yada yada). Nowhere is the Fed granted this authority either.

If the employee is found to be illegal, the Fed has the authority to remove that person from our borders.

As to your ‘vested interest’...When the Fed. gov’t BEGINS to do the basics of its authorized functions (IE: borders, protecting Citizens Rights), you might have a point. As to the ‘Balkinization, the States are where the experiments in Laws and Liberty are to be ‘fought’; in your postulation, if one State became the shining example, the gov’t could step in to stop people from confirming with their feet (moving). No. You give the gov’t too much authority it never had; it is only to PROMOTE the general welfare....not try provide.

The Individual comes first and foremost as they are the ONLY entity with Rights.


75 posted on 08/04/2013 8:28:28 AM PDT by i_robot73 (Gov't always start as MAY and SHOULD, but soon becomes one of WILL and SHALL. Never let them START.)
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