Posted on 08/02/2013 6:08:24 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
The president of a Wisconsin animal shelter is furious after the state Department of Natural Resources raided the facility with armed agents, detained volunteer workers and killed a baby deer named Giggles.
Im furious, said Cindy Schultz, president of the Society of St. Francis in Kenosha, Wis. We are a no-kill shelter. And they killed her. They killed Giggles. Im furious furious.
Schultz told Fox News an Illinois family found a baby fawn that had been abandoned by her mother. The family brought the deer to the Wisconsin shelter.
Staff members nicknamed the deer Giggles.
Wisconsin law bans residents or shelters from possessing any live wild animals without a license. Wisconsin does not rehabilitate deer so if they find an abandoned fawn, the creature is left to die, Schultz said.
We took it of course and we made arrangements to transfer the deer to an animal reserve in Illinois, she said. The day before she was supposed to leave, we had the raid.
On July 15 DNR agents and four deputy sheriffs staged the surprise raid in what staff workers called a massive and intimidating show of force.
(Excerpt) Read more at radio.foxnews.com ...
If it was infected with "wasting disease", which we do not yet know, you don't want to eat any of the meat as it may be contaminated and be the death of you. There is no cure nor vaccine.
It, "wasting disease", has a long slow progression before killing its host, it takes an autopsy to confirm its presence.
Still willing to eat it rather then euthanize it before it spreads the disease further?
I keep hearing about "feds" and "drones" and all sorts of crackpot fantasies.
First point, I live in Kenosha County. There were NO DRONES. The DNR does keep tabs on the deer herd in various parts of the state via aerial survey planes. These are population surveys used to help determine which areas will be opened to hunting and when. They also keep tabs on obvious losses to predators and any sign of spreading disease.
Secondly, there were no "Feds" involved. The DNR personnel are sworn, state level law enforcement, and they are normally armed while on duty. They were accompanied by Kenosha County Sheriff's Deputies, who are also normally armed. The Deputies were deployed as a courtesy because the Sheriff is kept appraised when LEOs from out of the County are operating on his turf. There were no "Fritz" helmeted ninja garbed black booted thugs present. Yes, Kenosha County has a SWAT team, no they were not employed.
Lastly, the lady who runs the "no-kill" shelter is a local nut job who has made problems for herself in the past and has apparently not learned much from her previous encounters with the law. At one point she trespassed on private property, removed two dogs from a fenced enclosure, transported the dogs to Illinois and sold them. She is frequently featured in the Kenosha News crime beat column. She is a few bricks short of a full load and is not considered a reliable witness.
I hope everyone can stop hyperventilating about the massive raid and relax with an adult beverage...
And to all a good night,
GtG
They had aerial photos so it was from a plane or drone. For a baby deer? They were going to move it to a shelter in Il. Kenosha is the border of IL and WI. I grew up around there. Brat Stop...right on the border...beer in steins best brauts ever....If there is a zombie deer disease spreading from WI to IL on highway 41...the interstate there. I’d know. I call BS on everything you say.
If you read my post you might remember that I said there were NO DRONES, I then went on to say that DNR does aerial surveys with light planes to take readings on the deer population and look for signs of diseases.
For a baby deer?
Yes for a baby deer, how do you suppose diseases spread?
They were going to move it to a shelter in Il.
So what, I don't suppose the Illinois Agriculture Department would be thrilled with Wisconsin residents bringing deer across the border into an area currently free of Chronic Wasting Disease. That would mean that the "shelter" owner would have committed crimes in two states, not just one. By the way you might read up on Cindy Schultz as she is known in the area as a real nut case and has continuing troubles with the law. All the hyperbole about air planes and drones is meaningless as this whole donnybrook was kicked off when a neighbor saw the deer at the "shelter" and dropped a dime on her. The DNR subsequently responded as Wisconsin law requires.
Kenosha is the border of IL and WI. I grew up around there. Brat Stop...right on the border...beer in steins best brauts ever....
I have been living in Kenosha for over 40 years. The Brat Stop still doing business, beer still cold, brats still excellent!
If there is a zombie deer disease spreading from WI to IL on highway 41...the interstate there. Id know.
Are you a deer hunter? If so where have you been hiding? Please read through the following links, CWD is a real threat and spreading slowly through the Whitetail deer herd which is a multimillion dollar resource for Wisconsin's economy. We tend to take things like that seriously.
Zoom into view CWD distribution around Kenosha
North American view of distribution showing Kenosha surrounded.
Illinois results, not high but increasing every year since 2003.
State by state. listing affected counties
Some scholarly articles for chronic wasting disease
I call BS on everything you say.
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion but not their own facts. Please make sure your brain is functioning before engaging your mouth...
I look forward to hearing your thoughts.
Regards,
GtG
PS Rabies is also getting more prevalent around here, it's showing up in small to medium sized mammals.
“DNR “Game Warden” Friendly, in normal uniform, walks into animal shelter. He explains the law, and tells them to give him the deer. He leaves with said deer, and has the state vet euthanize it. “
An absolutely sane and common sense approach that a government of rational people would have been chosen.
If the deer were not brought to the shelter, as it probably shouldn't have been because it's mother was probably nearby, it would just have been another deer out there, diseased or not.
Also, according to the CDC Prion or waisting disease transmission from deer to human is debatable, and even if it is transferable avoiding eating the brain, spine, eyes and spleen make the possibility of transmission close to 0%. And if after all that you're going to kill the fawn, how about have one officer pick it up calmly and dispose of it elsewhere?
Maybe that you don’t care about humans reflects more on your worth as a human (or lack of) than about the worth of humans vs animals in general.
What is my worth as a human? Should it matter to me or anyone else how other members of my species determine my worth or value? The only thing that matters to me his how I determine my worth.
I can tell you this. During my time on this rock, I have come to love animals far more than I love mankind.
And I’m not the only one.
If that hurts your feelings, that’s too bad.
Ha. Doesn’t bother me in the least. Like I mentioned, it reflects more on you than anything.
If you say so, but I do not believe you. If it didn’t bother you, you wouldn’t be talking to me about it.
You know what’s great about a dog? They don’t go out of their way to tell me that who I love and who I do not love reflects on me.
But some random human on the internet certainly will, but it doesn’t surprise me, this is how humans are, and it’s one of the very many reasons that I do not care for them.
You know, you are the craziest FReeper ever. You don’t know me. I talk about things that are not vital to me, as everyone does. You’d be so funny if you weren’t so sad. :D
Crazy? Maybe a little, but pretty much every person on this earth is.
What I am is honest. Pity me if it makes you feel better about yourself, but I am happy, and you are apparently bothered enough by my state of mind and outlook to continue to talk to me about it, and at the same time, you are furthering my contempt of our species.
I have what I need in my life, and your friendship, approval, acceptance, understanding, or anything else is none of those needs and never will be.
Ok. I accept that. I keep answering because there is something in each of your posts that I would like to address. Doesn’t mean it’s such a big deal.
Indeed.
That is why I knew that when you said “Ha. Doesnt bother me in the least”, you were lying.
That is another reason that I prefer animals to humans. Animals are honest, humans are not.
What I have done is construct my life in the way I wish it to be constructed, and I have filled it with exactly what and who I want in it, with the end goal being having what provides me the most joy, love and happiness possible.
That construction includes the fewest amount of humans as I can possibly manage, because I do not need anyone telling me that the way that I have decided to live, and the way I have decided to see things is sad or funny. What is sad is that you feel the need to tell me that.
I am a man who does what I want, not what you want or anyone else wants. I am free. If you find that funny or sad, then it is I who pities you.
Seeing as how our relationship is going nowhere, I am going to go ahead and end it now. I hope you enjoy your company more than I did.
Yeah yeah yeah. Yawnnnnn
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