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Armed agents raid animal shelter for baby deer
WISN.com ^ | 8/1/2013 | Colleen Henry

Posted on 08/01/2013 5:33:56 AM PDT by fteuph

KENOSHA, Wis. —WISN 12 News investigates an operation raising questions about the use of government resources and the state policy that meant a death sentence for a fawn.

"It was like a SWAT team," shelter employee Ray Schulze said.

Two weeks ago, Schulze was working in the barn at the Society of St. Francis on the Kenosha-Illinois border when a swarm of squad cars arrived and officers unloaded with a search warrant.

"(There were) nine DNR agents and four deputy sheriffs, and they were all armed to the teeth," Schulze said.

The focus of their search was a baby fawn brought there by an Illinois family worried she had been abandoned by her mother.

"When it made a little noise, it sounded like it was laughing," Schulze said.

Schulze videotaped the fawn they named Giggles during the two weeks she was there. The Department of Natural Resources began investigating after two anonymous calls reporting a baby deer at the no-kill shelter.

The warden drafted an affidavit for the search warrant, complete with aerial photos in which he described getting himself into a position where he was able to see the fawn going in and out of the barn.

Agents told staff they came to seize the deer because Wisconsin law forbids the possession of wildlife.

"I said the deer is scheduled to go to the wildlife reserve the next day," Schulze said.

Read more: http://www.wisn.com/news/armed-agents-raid-animal-shelter-for-baby-deer/-/9373668/21272108/-/wvh1n7z/-/index.html#ixzz2aifQoR1X

(Excerpt) Read more at wisn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: animals; donutwatch; fawn; swat; wisconsin
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To: Texas Eagle

Good idea. WISCONSIN governor Scott Walker can set the example by de-militarizing his own administration. Let’s have action, not talk.


21 posted on 08/01/2013 6:39:25 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: sport
In this case there was a lot of animus stirred up against the shelter by a pet owner who had surrendered her animal two a third party and then wanted it back when it turned up at the shelter as a stray. When the shelter refused her she went to the press.

This looks to me like someone "settling the score". But two wrongs don't make a right.

22 posted on 08/01/2013 6:43:25 AM PDT by jboot (It can happen here because it IS happening here.)
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To: fteuph

Were dogs kept their also and were they also shot,inquiring minds what to know. Cant open the White house tours but can spend thousands on swat team to run amok in animal shelter.


23 posted on 08/01/2013 7:13:58 AM PDT by bikerman (Obama! if his lips are moving he's lying.)
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To: jboot; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; Wisconsinlady; JPG; ...

See #8 for the back story of the raid on the Society of St. Francis Animal Shelter in Kenosha

FReep Mail me if you want on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping list.

I have mixed feelings about this. If this shelter is owned by Cindy Schultz, I don’t know why she’s allowed to be in the animal protection business after her conviction for stealing dogs out of their own back yards a few years ago.


24 posted on 08/01/2013 7:24:07 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: jboot
FTA: "I don't care where they would have killed her, it would have been wrong," shelter president Cindy Schultz said. Schultz said she plans to sue the DNR for removing Giggles without even a court hearing. She also questioned what such an operation costs taxpayers.

This woman used to live in my town. She certainly has been a headline grabber over the years. She ran such an aggressive campaign asState Director for Ross Perot that she became the last worker standing long before the election was ever held.

Then she was arrested and convicted for dognapping pure-bred dogs right out of their owners' back yards, neutering them, and selling them across state lines.

One sad aspect of her very sad life was when her mother was killed by a teen driver in a hit/run accident while walking near Cindy's home. The teen was fumbling with a tape or a CD player in her car, changing the music. When she looked up, Cindy's elderly mother was walking right into her path.

25 posted on 08/01/2013 7:35:55 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: Chewbarkah; baddog 219

Check out post #25. The owner of this “shelter” is not on the up and up. I don’t know why she has a license, given her past record.


26 posted on 08/01/2013 7:39:50 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: fteuph

What platform took the AERIAL PHOTOS?

A small drone, right?


27 posted on 08/01/2013 7:41:36 AM PDT by gaijin
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To: afraidfortherepublic
The Schultz woman comes off as a b*tch in the interview linked in post 8 and is apparently a crook to boot.

It does not excuse the SWAT tactics of the DNR. They would have done the same to an unimpeachable saint.

We need to seriously consider the value of anonymous "tip lines". It seems to me that they are mainly used to harass people and settle scores.

28 posted on 08/01/2013 7:41:49 AM PDT by jboot (It can happen here because it IS happening here.)
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To: gaijin

Every government has GIS offices nowadays. The photo was probably satellite imagery purchased from a GIS vendor. Or just something pulled off Google Earth. I’ve used freely available Google Earth imagery to settle a boundary dispute. It is very detailed and accurate.


29 posted on 08/01/2013 7:44:26 AM PDT by jboot (It can happen here because it IS happening here.)
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To: fteuph

Wait till the “anonymous calls” alert the authorities that you haven’t signed up for obamacare, own a gun, or teach your kids christian values. The police state is firmly here folks, and it’s run by criminals.


30 posted on 08/01/2013 7:45:24 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Mrs. Don-o

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31 posted on 08/01/2013 7:50:06 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The test of every religious, political, or educational system is the man that it forms." H. Amiel)
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To: jboot

I have to say that I was turned in anonymously by a disgruntled (fired) ex-employee for having 3 young pheasants in my barn. The DNR pounded on my door after dark, on a cold winter’s evening, when I was in bed recovering from the flu.

I told him that I’d been given the eggs by a pheasant farm owner who didn’t want to hatch them (too late in the season), that I’d incubated them, and that they had refused to leave my cozy barn, despite the fact that I’d left the door open for them. I asked him what he’d like me to do with them? Throw them out into the snow? Turn them over to the DNR?

He said that I needed a Game Farm license to have pheasants. “What did that take?”, I asked. “$10 and an inspection of my premises” was the answer. “Here’s a form to fill out.”

“When will they come to inspect?” I asked. He grinned and said that it had already been done and that I had the nicest pheasant pen he’d ever seen. Eventually my birds flew the coop, and I never saw them again. I still have the license, but it has lapsed.

No guns. No strong arms. Just a very polite agent.


32 posted on 08/01/2013 7:54:05 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: fteuph

It’s a good thing that Wisconsin has enough doe to make raids like this possible.


33 posted on 08/01/2013 7:57:41 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: fteuph

State animal control agencies are like this, and they are totally focused on killing wild animals ASAP that have come in contact with humans. They are utterly cold blooded and determined about it.

I have no idea where it comes from, but it is like the unofficial policy of many police departments to immediately kill any dog on a property as soon as they enter it, justified by warrant or not.

At a philosophical level, having this many people who do not just kill, but who want to kill and are enthusiastic about killing when they can, not just when they have to, is very, very frightening.

I remember years ago, an animal shelter was complaining that it couldn’t keep any employees to euthanize animals, even with very high wages (like $25/hr), because most would have close to nervous breakdowns after just a few days.

Joe Arpaio offered to set up an animal shelter and make jail inmates euthanize animals, and was shocked by the absolute rejection of the idea by both inmates and the public. Fortunately he then decided to make his shelter a “no kill” shelter.

So where are they getting people not just willing to kill, but enthusiastically wanting to kill?

The Milgram experiment on obedience to authority figures (1961) demonstrated that people will do horrible things to other people if they are ordered to. But how much killing can you get out of people that way?

Psychopaths have the wiring in the brain to be indifferent to the harm they inflict on others. Sociopaths are trained to be indifferent. If “reprogrammed” at an early age, sociopaths can be treated. If they are adults, likely not.

I doubt it is helpful to society to have so many sociopaths walking around, killing animals.


34 posted on 08/01/2013 8:08:15 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Be Brave! Fear is just the opposite of Nar!)
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To: theBuckwheat

Well said.


35 posted on 08/01/2013 8:36:13 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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To: fteuph; All

Duh, who knew that “ Wisconsin Bambi “ was a bigger threat than the hordes of illegal alien Mexican invaders that Obama refuses to capture?


36 posted on 08/01/2013 8:52:54 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Traitor John Roberts' Commune-Style Obama'care' violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: rockinqsranch

It’s called “desensitizing”, meaning that all of the shock troops need to have all traces of humanity and compassion erased from their souls, otherwise, they would be ineffective at killing with impunity. This explains why police have been shooting dogs with little or no regard.


37 posted on 08/01/2013 9:04:02 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
The Milgram experiment on obedience to authority figures (1961) demonstrated that people will do horrible things to other people if they are ordered to. But how much killing can you get out of people that way?

I believe that question was answered in the 1940s.
38 posted on 08/01/2013 9:14:25 AM PDT by Ellendra ("Laws were most numerous when the Commonwealth was most corrupt." -Tacitus)
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To: Red in Blue PA
Anyone who thinks government is beneficent after reading this needs their head examined.

When you add up all the stuff that has been going on, like all the SWAT raids, dog shootings, unwarranted surveillance, bulldozing the wrong house, deer killing, license plate tracking, and the complete lack of any remorse or reason, it's clear that the government is not here to help.

39 posted on 08/01/2013 9:16:23 AM PDT by Sender (It's never too late to be what you might have been.)
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To: afraidfortherepublic
That was the way things were done back in the USA. Officers of the law were polite, trustworthy and gracious public servants. Moreover, they were usually wise enough to avoid being manipulated by false or malicious reports.

I assume such men are still serving the public, but we certainly see a lot more of another type of government agent these days: the kind with a license to kill.

40 posted on 08/01/2013 9:30:36 AM PDT by jboot (It can happen here because it IS happening here.)
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