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1 posted on 07/31/2013 9:23:21 AM PDT by Kaslin
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My father was a Korea vet. I know he went through a lot of hell, but not quite the hell endured by the First Marines, I don’t think.

Great post.


2 posted on 07/31/2013 9:30:01 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
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My daddy is a three-war Marine, and meaintains that his time as a grunt in Korea was worse than his two weeks on Okinawa (where he was wounded) or his THREE Tours in Force Recon in Viet Nam. Korea was much more intense and unpleasant.

/He loves Korea and Koreans to this day
//Yes, my daddy is awesome...and still a little frightening


3 posted on 07/31/2013 9:30:09 AM PDT by warchild9
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I’m amazed at how many people don’t know that we have fought a war against China. Why has Hollywood never expressed an interest in the Korean War? M*A*S*H doesn’t count, since it’s really about Vietnam.


4 posted on 07/31/2013 9:36:33 AM PDT by cdcdawg (Be seeing you...)
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Chesty - Five Navy Crosses


10 posted on 07/31/2013 10:33:26 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (HM2/USN M/3/3 Marines RVN 66-67)
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The Forgotten War? I haven’t forgotten it.


15 posted on 07/31/2013 11:38:17 AM PDT by Fiji Hill
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The Korean War is forgotten in popular memory for good reasons. The leftists who control academia and the entertainment industry have no interest in publicizing a war that the communits obviously started. The communists and their helpers like I F Stone did try to push the absurd story that the ROK attacked North Korea and the North Koreans just fought back. But even liberals could grasp how fake that narrative was. The US government would prefer not to remember Korea as it was the war that proved every piece of the conventional wisdom on military affairs to be bogus. Truman and his vile Sec Def Louis Johnson believed they could go on starving the conventional forces because ‘strategic air power’ would deter any aggression through the threat of nuclear retaliation. No one thought a serious challenge might pop up in a peripheral area. All the leadership in DOD including the JCS knew they were rolling the dice that that US ground forces wouldn't ever be needed during the Cold War. The Army deteriorated to being little more than a constabulary. Aside from the 8th Army in Japan the only divisonally organized units in the Army were the 82nd ABN and an armored division at Ft Hood and I think and an infantry division. The last two were skeletonized. What ever McArthur’s failings he did serve the nation and the Army exceedingly well by refusing to turn the 8th Army into a constabulary and insisted on keeping the tactical structure of a field army in place no matter how badly equipped and poorly trained the men in those divisions were. When war came there at least was an organizational structure to use to fight it.

The US State Department would rather forget Korea as in January Sec State Acheson, in a statement obviously coordinated with the White House, declared Korea outside the US sphere of interest. McArthur seconded this statement by a similar one.

The US Army, in particular, generally ignores the Korean War because of the wretched performance of many of the 8th army units deployed in the first weeks of the conflict. Soldiers who had maybe two weeks of tactical training a year and often fired less than a hundred rounds on the firing range in a year found themselves suddenly thrust into combat with a tough, well trained and motivated enemy generally better armed and equipped than the US Army. A great many officers at both company and field grade failed miserably as leaders. Some fleeing in confiscated vehicles abandoning their units. Virtually all Army personnel assets available in the Far East and Conus other than the 82nd ABN were tasked to fill gaps and flesh out the 8th Army as it was conducting both a fighting retreat and attempting to establish a firm defensive perimeter. The fighting on the Pusan Perimeter was a closer thing than is generally known even with the concentration of US air, naval and land resources. These initial traumas were eclipsed by the near disaster that the 8th Army suffered at the hands of the Chinese Communists in their surprise counter-offensive sprung a few days after Thanksgiving 1950 as US/UN forces kicked off what was to be the ‘victory’ offensive that McArthur confidently expected would enable him to begin withdrawing some US forces by the end of the year. In this offensive in which one US division (the 2nd Infantry) was virtually destroyed and another (the 25th Infantry Division) was seriously mauled plus numerous non divisional units being destroyed or seriously damaged, the Chinese came near to cutting off and destroying the bulk of the combat forces of the 8th Army. Amidst this chaos it appears the commander of the 8th Army, LTG Walton Walker, suffered a near collapse due to battle fatigue. Walkers disarray led to no real command direction on a structured retreat to defensible positions near Pyongyang. Instead US/UN forces began a virtual stampede to the south . This situation was compounded by the death of General Walker in a vehicle accident shortly before Christmas and the innefectuality of MG Coulter the senior US Army officer in the 8th
Army.

The Korean War ought be ever remembered both to commemorate the courage and sacrifice of many US servicemen and their allies. Further this war illuminates every major professional challenge military forces can anticipate meeting. A sudden and unforeseen outbreak of hostilities, an enemy who appears as a near peer material contender with outstanding cohesion, training, and morale and an utterly ruthless elan that motivates them to win at all costs, a primitive battlefield marked by extremes of weather and environment and challenges to the highest command authorities requiring extraordinary moral and intellectual fortitude and sagacity.

20 posted on 07/31/2013 2:20:21 PM PDT by robowombat
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The commies overran the peninsula and sacked Seoul and other cities. Without the landing at Inchon the whole thing would have been captured by the commies.

Remember that next time someone says the commies never got into South Korea.


21 posted on 07/31/2013 2:25:31 PM PDT by GeronL
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There are two excellent Korean series on this war.
The Legend of the Patriots
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XV2-Bwt42Jo

Road One.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzBpaO77Xt8

EPIC Shows made from our Allies perspective.


25 posted on 07/31/2013 7:44:41 PM PDT by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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Chesty Puller’s son, Lewis Burwell Puller Jr., was A Marine platoon commander in Vietnam when a booby-trapped artillery shell blew off both his legs and parts of both hands. Somehow he survived. Later, he had a couple of children, got a law degree and wrote his memoirs which received a Pulitzer Prize in 1991. He fought a constant bout with alcoholism, PTSD, an addiction to pain medication and complications resulting from his severe injuries. In 1994 he died from a self-inflicted gunshot wound.

In Puller’s book, “Fortunate Son,” he wrote that when his father, Chesty, first saw him in the hospital the general broke down in tears. Puller Jr. said the image caused him more pain than his wounds.

26 posted on 08/01/2013 2:08:46 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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