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To: SoFloFreeper

Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaat? This reads like something from a Roman Catholic version of the Onion. Yes I am an evangelical, yes I disagree with Roman Catholic teachings on some things, but yes I affirm they have at least been nominal believers, and yes I am personally grieved as a Christian if Francis really said something like this. Now I would not say that it’s impossible for such clergy to get their relationship right with Jesus Christ and be saved, for me to say that would be to sell the gospel short, but they are going to have to jettison their “gayness” in the process... it’s basic bible. And they shouldn’t be ministers until they get this problem under significant Holy Spirit control. Did I wake up in Bizarro World this morning???


24 posted on 07/29/2013 5:59:48 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Whatever promise that God has made, in Jesus it is yes. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
yes I am personally grieved as a Christian if Francis really said something like this.

Said something like what? The headline?

Read the article and ask the question "What is not mentioned"? How about the definition of the word "judge" for starters?

The media messaging of "not judge" tries to float the idea that there must be some uncertainty, since the Pope chose not to condemn.

Merely a cheap trick, but it made us look, didn't it?

34 posted on 07/29/2013 6:14:41 AM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory, and He will not be mocked! Blessed be the Name of the Lord forever!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Did I wake up in Bizarro World this morning???

I find myself saying that more and more these days.
62 posted on 07/29/2013 6:36:27 AM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
No, HiTech, you didn't wake up in Bizarro World this morning, but you did get a strong shot of Nicole Winfield/ Associated Press, which is more Bizarro World than most of us can easily handle.

Winfield is --- as is so common --- exploiting the ambiguity between "orientation" and "conduct" by using the word "gay" to cover both.

If Pope Francis were a bit more nimble on his verbal feet, he would have underlined this difference at the outset. He tried to make the same point by specifying someone who "searches for the Lord and has good will" --- which implies cooperation with grace and striving for ultimately perfect victory over sin; but don't expect Associated Press --- or hostile commentators --- to pick up on that.

This #160 (Link) may be of interest.

185 posted on 07/29/2013 8:48:44 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("They help each other and say to their companions, 'Be strong!' " — Isaiah 41:6)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
From the Catechism:

2358 The number of men and women who have deep-seated homosexual tendencies is not negligible. This inclination, which is objectively disordered, constitutes for most of them a trial. They must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God’s will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord’s Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.

237 posted on 07/29/2013 10:52:01 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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