Posted on 07/29/2013 5:33:38 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
Pope Francis reached out to gays on Monday, saying he wouldn't judge priests for their sexual orientation in a remarkably open and wide-ranging news conference as he returned from his first foreign trip...
"If someone is gay and he searches for the Lord and has good will, who am I to judge?" Francis asked.
His predecessor, Pope Benedict XVI, signed a document in 2005 that said men with deep-rooted homosexual tendencies should not be priests. Francis was much more conciliatory, saying gay clergymen should be forgiven and their sins forgotten.
Francis' remarks came Monday during a plane journey back to the Vatican from his first foreign trip in Brazil.
He was funny and candid during a news conference that lasted almost an hour and a half. He didn't dodge a single question, even thanking the journalist who raised allegations reported by an Italian newsmagazine that one of his trusted monsignors was involved in a scandalous gay tryst.
(Excerpt) Read more at mobile.philly.com ...
Sounds to me like Francis has become rather laissez-faire about homo priests.
Got to remember he is tired from a long trip. Take it with a grain of salt.
Let’s remember that the media will spin any comment or leave out the context IF it will advance a perverted agenda....remember the George Zimmerman 9-1-1 call?
Sounds like he is attending to the world philosophy, if you can’t beat them, join them. Will go a long way to increasing the coffers.
I have high expectations of worldly wrath for such a comment.
I’m not Catholic but as I understand this unless the Pope changed the position of what the RCC teaches on celibacy and natural marriage, he still opposes homosexual(and all other non-marital) sexual relations.
I’ll read later when tome allows
It does save time to know what the Church says about hosexuality
It says that homosexuals are neither born that way or not it doesn’t matter. That they should not act on it
He is saying that when we meet God is when we send ourselves to wherever we’re going for eternity, that the Pope doesn’t do that
It means there is no room in the priesthood for practicing homosexuals It means that non practicing homosexuals should not be around a lot of men like in the priesthood
But not one journalist nor CINO. Could possibly take one God given hour to read it and find out
Also that the emy never sleeps and one should take the hour to get informed
it wouldn’t mean they could continue with their perverted practices, those would have to cease
That's wise.
Here's another story that may be related and "grow legs" as the Pope returns to Rome:
Report: Pope Francis Appointee Has History of Gay Affairs (Ricca)
Breitbart ^ | 21 Jul 2013, 5:32 PM PDT | Kate O'Hare
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3045762/posts
Yes duh it’s meant to.
The Freepers will be out in force over this proving they adore the media when it hates and misquotes the Catholic Church
The hypocrisy is sickening
If the quote they have is accurate, he is correct. It is not for us to judge.
And the Pope cannot change what the Church teaches. Certainly about this
Media spin.
The Left does not understand that perfect love also chastises; and that being unfit for a job is not a condemnation to hell.
So, “men with deep-rooted homosexual tendencies should not be priests” and “gay clergymen should be forgiven and their sins forgotten” are not two contradictory statements.
My reading indicates 3 items, none of which contradicts Church teachings.
1. A person can be attracted to someone of the same sex, but is earnestly seeking God, trying to do His will. That person, like everyone else, is a sinner, and deserves mercy and forgiveness. This gay person is NOT likely to be at the Pride parades.
2. To the press, don’t spread rumors.
3. Everybody is a sinner. In matters of sin, ask for forgiveness, believe in God’s mercy, and change your ways.
None of this is new. Its just that when the word “gay” is in the discussion, people lose the listening/reading comprehension.
How does someone even find OUT what a priest's sexual orientation IS ?
Uhhh .. s'cuse me father .. d'ya like girls .. or boys?
Did I say that ? .. Alfredo .. get me some more coffee ... and clear my calendar for a few hours .. I need a nap
Pope Francis reached out to gays on Monday, saying he wouldn't judge priests for their sexual orientation in a remarkably open and wide-ranging news conference as he returned from his first foreign trip...
"If someone is gay and he searches for the Lord and has good will, who am I to judge?" Francis asked.
What is with it with Catholics that are always saying things that don't mean what is said but mean what the Church says it means? He said what he said.
Maybe the Catholic hierarchy needs lessons in how to communicate more clearly so they do not continually say things that need to be *interpreted* to be taken *correctly* and lay Catholics do not have to waste so much time in damage control trying to reconcile their comments and explain them away to non-Catholics, who can clearly understand what was plainly said.
He said what he said and it's in direct violation of the Scripture that Catholics claim the church wrote and has the only authority to interpret.
1 Corinthains 5:1-13 It is actually reported that there is sexual immorality among you, and of a kind that is not tolerated even among pagans, for a man has his father's wife. And you are arrogant! Ought you not rather to mourn? Let him who has done this be removed from among you.
For though absent in body, I am present in spirit; and as if present, I have already pronounced judgment on the one who did such a thing. When you are assembled in the name of the Lord Jesus and my spirit is present, with the power of our Lord Jesus, you are to deliver this man to Satan for the destruction of the flesh, so that his spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord.
Your boasting is not good. Do you not know that a little leaven leavens the whole lump? Cleanse out the old leaven that you may be a new lump, as you really are unleavened. For Christ, our Passover lamb, has been sacrificed. Let us therefore celebrate the festival, not with the old leaven, the leaven of malice and evil, but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people—not at all meaning the sexually immoral of this world, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler—not even to eat with such a one. For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you areto judge? God judges those outside. “Purge the evil person from among you.”
He will put away the sin when he finds the Lord. Or at least will try to do so.
Exactly and this should be the view of all Christians regarding every kind of sin. We all born into sin, as Christians we should be striving every moment to resist it. We should not be redefining God in order to permit it. The same is true of those who are gay, it is no excuse to sin.
There is a giant lie being told in Christian circles and people who are not well grounded in scripture and tradition are falling for it. God is very clear about what is and is not permissable. There are many souls in danger.
You have essentially spoken correctly. Unfortunately, those who remain ignorant of the Churches teachings, some quite intentionally, will use his words against him and the church. My curiosity is in wondering whether his having spoken in this manner and on this topic isn’t a sign that this Pope believes in his heart that the process of the end times has commenced.
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