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To: albionin
Look it up yourself. It is right there in the first account of creation. I don’t care to haggle over interpretations. That is another huge red flag for me and the final nail in the coffin for the bible as the word of god. If it were it would be clear and understandable and would not need to be interpreted by the very beings who the bible tells us are fallen, imperfect and incapable of thinking for themselves. We would just be able to take it literally but apparently it isn’t because every Christian I have met has a different one depending on what church they go to. I don’t care what anyone’s interpretation is because I don’t consider it the word of God.

Genesis 1:1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

I asked you to provide the Scripture to support your claim. What I got was a snark response. Not 'reading' your mind's intent, I allowed the possibility of the numerous translations filled with the traditions of men/women. But apparently based upon your snarky response your mind is made up.

There was a time when I would have 'felt' really bad for your mindset. However, this flesh age is getting long in the tooth and whether or not any soul/spirit intellect has the need for and love of truth, I finally realized my latter end is NOT contingent upon what path others take.

AND whether or not you keep your own path or seek to understand what Genesis actually and literally says in giving a chronology of this 'flesh' age does not change what is yet in store. Christ said 'I have foretold you all things', but He did not say that any or all would understand and/or comprehend all things. I know I sure do not understand all things foretold, but, I at least do have a primary expectation of worldly events as they unfold.

171 posted on 08/07/2013 2:01:10 AM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Just mythoughts

I figured you had it by heart. On the first day he created light. On the second day he created the sky by creating a vault to separate the waters above from the waters BELOW and he called the vault sky so clearly the Earth was already created because on the next day he causes the waters to gather into one place to make the land appear. Then he created plants. On the 4th day he created the Sun, the Moon and the stars and he SET THEM in the sky. So clearly he created the Earth first, then land, then plants and then the Sun and Moon. So this is a problem because we are only a handful of paragraphs into the most holy book which is supposed to be the truth of all truths and already you have to change the story and rationalize to make it fit the actual data of our observations. We can’t just read it. If this part is so wrong how can we trust any of the rest of it. Now we have a contradiction between science and the bible. You choose to believe the bible and I choose to believe science because scientists don’t just assert, they provide evidence and other scientists check the evidence on a continuous basis to integrate what we know with new data. I’ll let reality be the judge of who is right. The point is that you have to accept the story of genesis on faith and that is not reason that is just subjective belief. I don’t have a problem with people believing it. That’s their right. I do have a problem when they come and tell me I am an irrational fool because I don’t believe and I am blind and then threaten me with eternal punishment and they do all of this without a single solitary shred of evidence to back it up. Alamo girl said in her recent post that it is pointless pointing out logical fallacies on this forum which proves my point. You all don’t care if your arguments are fallacious and invalid because you don’t use logic. That’s why you can tell me that the bible doesn’t say what it says about the Earth being created before the sun and the moon. I don’ accept anything but logic so that is why we will never come to an understanding. Your faith separates us and causes you to judge me and wish bad things to happen to me because the person who repeats a threat to me is the one who threatens me. Stop it. Just stop it.


172 posted on 08/07/2013 8:03:50 AM PDT by albionin (A gawn fit's aye gettin.)
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