Posted on 07/28/2013 1:24:26 PM PDT by Texas Fossil
We still have RINOs like Steven King claiming they don’t have access to emails.
If Snowden is lying, then why do they have a warrant for his arrest?
“Does Congress have their head up their posterior, or are they simply complicit?”
BOTH!
I can assure you he is wrong.
I had my email account filtered for 6-12 months several years ago. At the time I felt it was ATT that was responsible, but now I am not that sure. That was due to a Technorati Search that I did and a screen capture of the result. I drew a conclusion from that search that displease some POLs. They magicked away any email that I sent with an attachment. Could not even send one to my daughter who had a Yahoo email account. Finally it started working again.
They save all, process what they want to process no matter how rediculous. All without a warrant. Then they lie about what they actually do.
Even the local photo of license plates. Those are stored in a database and collected at the State level. It may be that they are accessible at the federal level. They NEVER ever delete any data. Bureaucraps are like that, they are like horders, they can never bring themselves to part with any data. No matter if it is in error to begin with. It is the nature of the beast.
I would add that in the case of Snowden and others anyone voting for Obmama cannot really care for the USA and the Constitution. These people might be piqued at one shameful act but do not see or care to see other wrongs.
I loaned my copy of “the Puzzle Palace” to a X-Navy tech friend. And it did not come home. It’s OK. He was a good friend. I have lots of books, but the web has reduced my ability to read that type of stuff.
Too many distractions.
Starve the beast. Cut off the funding. Close entire Rogue US Government Departments. Put a stake in the heart of the beast.
Agree
Visited with a friend of mine who has experience as an analyst. The opinion was that the NSA/CIA people were telling the truth, that no low level analysts would have this kind of access. That historically makes sense.
Now, think about this. Snowden voted for Obozo. Is he playing us to cripple the US Intelligence operation?
What if the NSA/CIA officials are telling the truth. They do not snoop on US citizens without a court order. BUT, somehow the Obot techies have access to the same data and are doing this on their own, not VIA the agencies who are tasked to do this job.
We all know that Obozo is going after his enemies (ie. Patriots etc). We see how he has subverted the military. Is he doing the same thing here?
It seems that Snowden may be a part of a large charade to cripple the Intelligence by cutting funding to monitor our enemies. At the same time tapping the Intelligence database for subversive purposes with non Intelligence operatives.
That to me makes some sense.
What do you think?
I think you are full of crap. Name you your friend. Come on tell us.
Nope. sorry.
Nope I don’t believe you. You lie.
I’m pretty sure I remember reading that he supported a lot of obozo’s policies but had himself voted 3rd party and was probably a ron paul supporter. And someone else posted that he’d in fact donated to the paul campaign.
I have no doubt that the wrong sorts of people have access to all the worst sorts of national security secrets as well.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/06/10/edward-snowden-ron-paul_n_3414992.html
“According to campaign finance reports, Snowden donated $250 to the libertarian’s presidential campaign twice in 2012. Paul has long railed against government secrecy and intrusion into private life.
Snowden told The Guardian that he voted for a third-party candidate in 2008, although he was optimistic about President Barack Obama’s promises.
“A lot of people in 2008 voted for Obama. I did not vote for him. I voted for a third party,” he said. “But I believed in Obama’s promises. I was going to disclose it [but waited because of his election]. He continued with the policies of his predecessor.””
You can believe whatever you want.
This is not the first time I have been called a liar on FR. Unfortunately.
But it is just the way it sometimes is.
The question is, why would I lie about this?
I have no reason to do so.
I have know a number of interesting people. Many were connected with the Labs & Mil bases in NM. Some worked for plants in Texas. My father-in-law worked in one of those 40 years.
I have always been interested in technology, but did not work in that type of field.
I’m just telling you, I am SICK to DEATH of people telling me I know, trust me. I don’t know you so I don’t trust you.
And if you are authentic that shouldn’t offend you.
I thought I read that Snowden voted for Obozo in 2008. I knew about his contribution to Paul in 2012.
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“He continued with the policies of his predecessor”
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To some degree. But it is clear that Obozo is using federal information to target his enemies. W did not do that, to my knowledge. I am cautious to put W and Obozo in the same sentence.
I never said just trust me.
And no, I do not know you either.
What I told you was true. You can believe that or not. That is up to you.
At this point it is still a relatively free country. Certainly here in TX it is largely so.
Occam’s razor.
The NSA has admitted that they collect every voice call. I read a report where they admitted they run the “take” to see if any key words kick it out for more scrutiny. They are getting everything.
I think the word “analyst” is waaaay to encompassing. The NSA is HUGE. Much, much bigger than the CIA. They have a lot of people to sit around and examine the “take”.
Now, the thought HAS crossed my mind that Snowden is a plant to enable Obama to hurt our intelligence apparatus. But I think Obama views himself too much like a king. He won’t do ANYTHING to reduce his power while he is in office.
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