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Pentagon considering affirmative action in combat
The Daily Caller ^ | July 26, 2013 | Elizabeth Dorton

Posted on 07/26/2013 9:39:55 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Senior military personnel are considering now giving women different military training than men, The Washington Times reports.

The effort was proposed by Massachusetts Democrat Rep. Niki Tsongas at a recent House Armed Services Committee hearing because so far, she says training systems do not “maximize the success of women.”

Though the armed services have promised that combat standards will be the same regardless of gender, senior officers are considering initially separate training systems.

Army Lt. Gen. Howard Bromberg, serving as deputy chief of staff for personnel, considers separate training programs to be more about considering all soldiers as individuals, citing a need to explore how the training process works.

“We’re not looking at it just for the integration of women,” Bromberg said. “We’re looking at it for the total soldier, because just as you have a 110-pound male who may lack some type of physiological capability or physical capability, he or she may both need to be trained differently. We’re trying to expand our understanding of how we train.”(continued)

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: affirmativeaction; army; military; nikitsongas; obama; womenincombat
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To: EEGator

If one of those females is MY daughter I will hunt YOU down...

Just sayin’...


21 posted on 07/26/2013 10:09:03 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: IDontLikeToPayTaxes

At least we had some hotties in the USAF. Now it’ll be like Ithaca or Berkeley women.


22 posted on 07/26/2013 10:09:32 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Black Agnes

Are you saying me personally, or the enemy soldiers responsible?


23 posted on 07/26/2013 10:10:20 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They should go with Limbaugh’s All-American First Cavalry Amazon Battalion.


24 posted on 07/26/2013 10:11:23 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: EEGator

But seriously. This is population control. Thinly disguised.

Take women at their peak fertile years. Draft them. Mandate birth control shots (that will be in there somewhere), give them poor and substandard training and qualifications and then let them get killed or maimed or so psychologically disturbed they never recover.

It’s a win win.

Killing the women is the first thing those interested in genocide or eugenics do. The women have the babies.


25 posted on 07/26/2013 10:11:28 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Even with all the BS the Inner Party liked to fling (in Orwell’s ‘1984’) even O’Brien admits that they cut the chit when it comes to war-readiness.

But our Big Bro’ has apparently made it doctrine that military training and combat standards will be the same for men and women recruits.
At the same time, they will be different. Doublethink. No, this won’t end well for any troops depending on others in their squad; but in the spirit of doublethink, it will work out fine for those who may not be dependable themselves.


26 posted on 07/26/2013 10:12:06 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: All armed conservatives.)
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To: EEGator

Anyone who thinks drafting MY daughter to get her blown up or raped is my enemy.

‘.’


27 posted on 07/26/2013 10:12:15 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

The Soviets once thought doing this was a good idea....they very quickly found out it wasn’t.


28 posted on 07/26/2013 10:13:19 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Chode

21st Century Comfort Women???


For sure. That’s what they’ll end up as.


29 posted on 07/26/2013 10:14:23 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Black Agnes

Well I think the blame would fall on those who commit those acts, and those who set our policy. My pointing out what would happen doesn’t make me responsible one bit.


30 posted on 07/26/2013 10:14:37 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Worked just fine for another communist military: AFAIK, Nazy haven't even recognized allied female soldiers as any legitimate combatants. Under their instructions women in uniform had to be shot on spot as insurgents.
31 posted on 07/26/2013 10:14:54 PM PDT by cunning_fish
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To: dfwgator

The soviets weren’t obsessed with population control.

Our ‘leaders’ are.

At the very least the years our women would be required to serve would be childfree. Fewer opportunities for them to have babies overall. And sometimes those birth control shots are permanent. Depo is notorious in this regard.


32 posted on 07/26/2013 10:19:23 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Nowhere Man

The Draft will probably be back in a few years. I’ll give aid and comfort to any Draft Dodgers that I can.

Our military has turned into a politically correct tool to protect special interests who are pushing the New World Order.


33 posted on 07/26/2013 10:22:10 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: EEGator

Just remember with all the ‘liberal women will get what they deserve’ chortling you and others are doing on this thread there will be millions of girls who have NOT been raised by feminists and who are NOT feminists who will get killed, raped and maimed as well.

Just because YOU were mistreated and drafted (I am NOT a supporter of the draft for anyone of any chromosomal makeup) doesn’t mean it’s a great idea to mistreat someone else. Especially girls who have been raised to be homemakers and helpmeets for their husbands.


34 posted on 07/26/2013 10:22:40 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Overwhelmingly women in the Army want no part of the Combat Arms. They pretty much look upon the Army as a sort of social welfare program with great benefits, good childcare and opportunities to travel. Aside from some rather eccentric females the enlisted ranks want no part of the combat forces. This program is simply to enable some ambitious female officers who are USMA or Texas A & M or VPI grads who know that only officers from the combat arms get the really powerful staff and command billets. It is not that these females want a career in the Infantry, Armor or Artillery. They want the combat arms career designation and get their tickets punched by pulling relatively short tours with tactical units and spend most of their career as staff officers. Imagine a female version of the current CJCS or Colin Powell and you have the perfect idea of what these women want to be. They will burden the armed services with really awful careerist opportunists and be untouchables by virtue of their gender and 'combat arms' status. The same dynamic is going to work with 'openly gay' officers. Whether recognized 'officially' as a protected class they will be and their will be unofficial but very powerful pressure for quotas for the gay blades. Watch for demands from politicians for promoting and recognizing 'openly gay officers'. The US Army is headed down the road towards real moral corruption and being a traditional soldier or officer is going to become very very difficult. But that is a big reason for these changes. This is what 'transformative strategies' are all about.
35 posted on 07/26/2013 10:22:49 PM PDT by robowombat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Why have the strongest military when we can have the most politically correct one?

This has always been the liberals biggest failing: They think they know everything, so why have a plan B ready to go in case things fall apart.

lol. Come a shooting war, watch the pregnancy rate, real or imagined, skyrocket in the military!

36 posted on 07/26/2013 10:27:54 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica (A Newly Arrived Convert to the Fair Tax! Abolish the IRS! Abolish the FED!)
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To: Black Agnes

There won’t be millions of girls drafted. They don’t have to register for selective service. My point was that they don’t want equality, they want the best of everything.(special treatment) Women shouldn’t be allowed in any combat role, let alone SpecOps.

I was never mistreated, nor was I drafted. I said I registered for selective service. I was born in 1975. I voluntarily joined the USAF. I also was never in combat.


37 posted on 07/26/2013 10:30:49 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: montanajoe

that’s not what people are saying.

the point is they are going to die because they are going to get ‘women training’ and that is going to get them killed in combat, and it may mean others get killed because of that. this is not doing women any favors, or the men fighting beside them.

this is pc bullsh1t theater.


38 posted on 07/26/2013 10:32:36 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: EEGator

Oh I agree with the non combat/spec ops stuff. 100%.

That’s crazy talk. Only way they make that is by scrapping the qualifications. Estrogen doesn’t build muscles or or dense bones like testosterone does.


39 posted on 07/26/2013 10:34:02 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Black Agnes

show me exactly where he said he wanted to draft your daughter and blow her up.

i think your comprehension is a little off tonight. his point was that it will probably take a lot of female casualites for the pc crap to be dropped and get women out of direct combat roles.

are you always taking every discusson as a personal attack? are you just on these threads to pick fights and be argumentative? nobody made it personal but you.


40 posted on 07/26/2013 10:36:23 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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