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Wind turbines ARE a human health hazard: the smoking gun
The London Telegraph ^ | July 25, 2013 | James Delingpole

Posted on 07/25/2013 5:30:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah, they're, like, really green and safe and good for you…..

How much more dirt needs to come out before the wind industry gets the thorough investigation it has long deserved?

The reason I ask is that it has now become clear that the industry has known for at least 25 years about the potentially damaging impact on human health of the impulsive infrasound (inaudible intermittent noise) produced by wind turbines. Yet instead of dealing with the problem it has, on the most generous interpretation, swept the issue under the carpet – or worse, been involved in a concerted cover-up operation.

A research paper prepared in November 1987 for the US Department of Energy demonstrated that the "annoyance" caused by wind turbine noise to nearby residents is "real not imaginary." It further showed that, far from becoming inured to the disturbance people become increasingly sensitive to it over time.

This contradicts claims frequently made by wind industry spokesmen that there is no evidence for so-called Wind Turbine Syndrome (the various health issues ranging from insomnia and anxiety to palpitations and nausea reported by residents living within a mile or more of wind turbines). Until recently, RenewableUK – the British wind industry’s trade body – claimed on its website: “In over 25 years and with more than 68,000 machines installed around the world, no member of the public has ever been harmed by the normal operation of wind farms.”(continued)

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government
KEYWORDS: alternativeenergy; energy; greenenergy; wind; windpower; windturbines
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
A research paper prepared in November 1987...

Oh come on, the wind energy haters have to dig back 26 years to justify their existence?! Yeah, wind turbines back then were actually lousy!

So were cellphones and PCs back in '87! Travelling from LA to Japan sucked too, I always had to stop in Hawaii. Does that mean it's all still lousy today?

Pathetic...

21 posted on 07/25/2013 6:27:38 PM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back The Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Scrambler Bob

LOL!!!


22 posted on 07/25/2013 6:28:22 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.)
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To: 353FMG

I remember reading about warmer night time temperatures under Texas wind farms.


23 posted on 07/25/2013 6:31:32 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Osage Orange
I'm not totally sure....but that sound's like some of the left's nonsense.

Its simple energy conversion physics. However its more complicated than that over a wide area because the air gains energy from the sun.
24 posted on 07/25/2013 6:34:26 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ve lived in an area targeted for wind farming. A few tidbits I noticed:

The sales crew knows what they’re doing, which include knowing that their opposition doesn’t.
The sales crew’s job is to sell the product, first to the neighborhood, then to the next batch of investors. They have zero interest in long term issues. They’re like a startup business focused entirely on doing just enough to sell the company.
The sales crew will say nothing to direct questions of infrasound, shadows, or long term ownership. Red flags.
The expected lifespan of a wind farm is 25 years. If you’re not over age 40, you have no idea how short a time that is and how you’re going to have to deal with it.
Nobody has any incentive for major maintenance, much less removal, when that time is up for the bulk of the turbines. What happens to dozens of huge heavy towers nobody wants?
Some percentage of turbines will self destruct (like the lead photo shows). There’s no interest in repairing it if they can at all get away with just abandoning it.
Shadows are really disturbing. If the shadow crosses your path, it will get to you fast.
Nobody considers that the towers will likely be built on someone else’s property, nor how it impacts the community.
The moment the subject of wind farms arises as a real possibility in the area, the neighborhood starts getting torn apart: some will be approached to rent land for the turbines, a tantalizing financial opportunity for the landowner vs the neighbors having to put up with it with no compensation. Rumors will abound, tempers will flare, accusations will hurt.


25 posted on 07/25/2013 6:35:22 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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To: ctdonath2

And to make matter worse, the leeches aren’t profitable on their own so they inevitably feed on the tax payers.


26 posted on 07/25/2013 6:38:36 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: LibLieSlayer

Dutch windmills? The windmills we’re discussing are far larger and involve far more power than those. Grinding grain or pumping water is one thing, hundred-foot blades generating enough power to run whole neighborhoods is on a whole different levels. Think bicycles vs derailing trains.


27 posted on 07/25/2013 6:39:03 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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28 posted on 07/25/2013 6:40:48 PM PDT by RedMDer (When immigrants cannot or will not assimilate, its really just an invasion. Throw them out!)
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To: cripplecreek
So in the middle of the prairie the wind is knocked down...and ruined by a four bladed turbine? I understand physics...and such. But the wind continues on...

It might slow down a bit...winding thru the blades...but it will continue on...just as it was.

BTW...I think wind turbines are a blight on the land...and a very poor choice for long term power. Not to mention subsidized...by my money.

29 posted on 07/25/2013 7:04:22 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.)
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30 posted on 07/25/2013 7:10:41 PM PDT by kitchen (Make plans and prepare. You'll never have trouble if you're ready for it. - TR)
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To: Osage Orange

Sorry you can’t beat physics.

The wind that is slowed down a little bit will be slowed down a bit more by the next windmill and a little more by the next. The wind will regain energy from the sun once its past the windmills. It does expose a natural inefficiency of a wind farm. The bigger they are the more inefficient they are.


31 posted on 07/25/2013 7:15:36 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: ctdonath2
Nobody considers that the towers will likely be built on someone else’s property, nor how it impacts the community.

We had a case in Michigan where a couple of non resident landowners signed leases to put windmills on their land. When neighbors who actually lived there stopped them, the township ceded the land to a neighboring township and the monuments to stupidity went up anyway.

It appears the the power company made a quiet deal with the township without telling anyone. When the locals raised hell the power company threatened a lawsuit if their deal fell through.
32 posted on 07/25/2013 7:24:48 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I believe it to likely be true. The human Vestibular System includes the human skull. There are certain frequencies in the audible and non audible low frequency range which no hearing protection can stop.

Can sounds cause anxiety in some people? Yes even to the point of seizure activity and disability. For some people even what most persons consider normal noises at normal levels can do this. Vestibular Triggered Anxiety is a common cause of Panic Attacks even though the person may not be aware of it.

I've done a lot of reading and I have a lot of person experience in this type of problem. This is something that should have been considered before the huge investment was made and a possible work around made or locating them about 4-5 miles away from places people live or work.

I'll show you what I mean. We all know about the cars with Sub Woofers. You hear the Bass and you fell it. Stopping up your ears doesn't help as it penetrates the skull as can some higher frequencies. You can't shut the noise out.

This may not bother all people. It may bother some just slightly. It may make some persons lives a torment being around noises that trigger anxiety that they can not escape. I am such a person but I learned to control what I hear and exposure limits to offending sounds.

33 posted on 07/25/2013 7:41:38 PM PDT by cva66snipe (Two Choices left for U.S. One Nation Under GOD or One Nation Under Judgment? Which one say ye?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m against energy subsidies and other socialist waste, but that’s just funny.

Wind farm illness: Waubra Disease
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wYnNQoTcsHY

Acoustic Vibration Disease Hat
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=El2vVl5Figk

Environmentalists are against Wind power
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pODvhqSfyeM

Wind turbine syndrome news report
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRCekFYWsPo

Wind Nimby Spanking
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lLHOydx2RTA

Wind Nimby Rant
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KurAbrMHu2k

John Stossel Wind Power and NIMBY
[Environmentalists against wind turbines.]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo2rMj8KVtQ


34 posted on 07/25/2013 8:07:40 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of rotten politics smelled around the planet.)
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To: MasterGunner01

Thank you for this list.


35 posted on 07/25/2013 9:24:18 PM PDT by CitizenM (Obama - The architect of the decline of the U.S.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
My favorite horror story about wind turbines comes from Germany where the “Greenies” have gotten the German government to heavily invest in wind farms. Some years ago a storm front blew into Germany from the North Sea with winds approaching hurricane velocity. The wind turbines got to spinning so fast they were dumping too much voltage into the power grid.

Just like most power systems worldwide, the German power grid is monitored by very sophisticated computers. The computer software detected the overvoltage condition and immediately went into Protection Mode. In this case, protection mode means isolation of the overvoltage areas by means of electrical load shedding. The software issued orders to open the necessary line contactors to cutoff the sources of the voltage.

Isolating the affected areas was need to protect the rest of the power grid and prevent a cascading failure that could wipe out the whole power grid. The affected isolated areas composed of nearly 1/3 of Germany. It took three to five days to restore 100% power in the affected areas due to overvoltage damage in those areas.

36 posted on 07/25/2013 10:28:32 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: Usagi_yo

Good point re wind degradation.


37 posted on 07/26/2013 12:15:42 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: LibLieSlayer
Well, half the country is underwater - clear evidence of rising sea levels, which are caused by melting polar ice, which is caused by global warming climate change.

OMG wind turbines cause global warming climate change!!!!

38 posted on 07/26/2013 12:20:25 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Usagi_yo

I have mentioned it, here. One would think sapping the very wind currents of energy which distribute solar energy from the equator toward the poles would cause impaired thermal mixing, resulting in greater differences in barometric pressure in airmasses, and more severe weather.


39 posted on 07/26/2013 3:53:56 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: ctdonath2

Sorry I wasn’t clear... it was just a humorous remark. Don might not want to joust with windmills if they will cause him harm! ;-)


40 posted on 07/26/2013 4:08:20 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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