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Getting the lead out, literally: U.S. Army plans switch to ‘green’ bullets
dailycaller.com ^ | 07/24/2013 | Michael Bastasch

Posted on 07/25/2013 8:04:26 AM PDT by kimtom

The U.S. Army is taking the expression “get the lead out” quite literally and switching to lead-free, environmentally-friendly bullets.

The Army’s Picatinny Arsenal is working on a “green” version of the M80A1 7.62 mm bullet, which troops are supposed to start being issued in 2014, according to an Army press release.

The Army has been looking to “green” small caliber ammo for some time now. In 2010, the Army switched to the greener 5.56 mm M855A1 Enhanced Performance Round. “The EPR replaces the lead slug with a copper slug,” said Lt. Col. Phil Clark, product manager for small caliber ammunition in the Program Executive Officer Ammunition. “This makes the projectile environmentally-friendly, while still giving soldiers the performance capabilities they need on the battlefield. So far we have eliminated 1,994 metric tons of lead from 5.56 ammunition production.”

“Thirty-two grains of lead are eliminated per M855A1 projectile, and 114.5 grains of lead will be eliminated per M80A1 projectile,” according to the Army.

The Army projects that the use of.....

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TOPICS: Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ammo; military; usarmy; weapon
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"this is what we've been asking for!!" A real effective fighting force: (sarc)

1 posted on 07/25/2013 8:04:26 AM PDT by kimtom
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This of course will lower the ballistic Coefficient of the round making it less accurate and shorter ranged.


2 posted on 07/25/2013 8:08:09 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: kimtom

Will this double or triple the cost of Ammo ?


3 posted on 07/25/2013 8:08:38 AM PDT by molson209
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To: kimtom

Copper is expensive, why not use a zink aluminum alloy? Maybe a copper jacket over cast iron would work out better?


4 posted on 07/25/2013 8:09:51 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Remember Ty Woods? Glenn Doherty ? Forgot already?)
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To: molson209

Copper sells for several times more per pound vs. lead.


5 posted on 07/25/2013 8:10:04 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (NRA Life Member)
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Not only is it stupid to seek green ammo ... but, even if environmentally-friendly ammunition were your cause-of-choice, lead bullets aren’t even near the top of the list. Don’t they use depleted uranium anti-tank shells and cluster munitions?

Good grief.

SnakeDoc


6 posted on 07/25/2013 8:10:53 AM PDT by SnakeDoctor ("I've shot people I like more for less." -- Raylan Givens)
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If we started a rumor that all our bullets are coated with a pig-fat based lubricant, we would have to use a lot less of them


7 posted on 07/25/2013 8:11:36 AM PDT by Mr. K (4 election)
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This makes the projectile environmentally-friendly

Insane.

I don't give a damn about another country's "environment" when they have done something, anything that draws our troops there. F'em.

8 posted on 07/25/2013 8:11:45 AM PDT by Ghost of SVR4
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As long as the bullets incorporate a pork based lubricant, I’m fine with it.


9 posted on 07/25/2013 8:12:15 AM PDT by I cannot think of a name
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To: SnakeDoctor
Don’t they use depleted uranium anti-tank shells and cluster munitions?

Yes they do, and the eco-nazis, the pacifists and other similar riff-raff whine and cry about it.

10 posted on 07/25/2013 8:13:18 AM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilization is Aborting, Buggering, and Contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: kimtom

Well in another green initiative, they are replacing Marines with Gays. Marines are defiantly not environmentally friendly.


11 posted on 07/25/2013 8:14:05 AM PDT by American in Israel (A wise man's heart directs him to the right, but the foolish mans heart directs him toward the left.)
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The part of the military that has and deserves respect is the solder/airman/sailer.

The part of the military that deserves derision and scorn is the “leadership” comprised of rank and status seeking poorly educated politican generals and admirals - few, of any - who think of anything other than the latest politically correct move.

They - as their leader the Obamadork - are scum.

Pure scum.


12 posted on 07/25/2013 8:14:45 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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Insanity.

War isn’t something where we worry about being “green”

How green was Germany when we finished with it, or Korea.

I wonder if the 1.6 Billion bullets ordered for the IRS, and Social Security administration are “green” They are for killing Americans not for the enemy.


13 posted on 07/25/2013 8:16:14 AM PDT by Venturer
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To: mountainlion

Not to mention the cost enhancement.


14 posted on 07/25/2013 8:16:33 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

They could replace the lead core with Fruit Cake DC has plenty


15 posted on 07/25/2013 8:16:58 AM PDT by molson209
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Good point. Let’s start that rumor about bullets being coated with pig fat.

We have seen people getting killed over false rumors that the Koran was flushed down a toilet. So let’s start this rumor, and give the Muslims something to think about.


16 posted on 07/25/2013 8:18:35 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Copper sells for several times more per pound vs. lead.

What do they care? It's only our money.

17 posted on 07/25/2013 8:21:57 AM PDT by RedMDer (When immigrants cannot or will not assimilate, its really just an invasion. Throw them out!)
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To: kimtom

If this is true, then why in the heck have all the governmental agencies from HLS to the IRS been buying up all the ammo. Are they going to chuck all of that into the Potomac now? So they can use these green turd bullets? You know this crap has been in the pipeline for a couple of years now.


18 posted on 07/25/2013 8:22:07 AM PDT by GoreFreeTN (Keep the change, I want my dollars back.)
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I use copper bullets for hunting. They work fine. But not because they're "green."

19 posted on 07/25/2013 8:22:53 AM PDT by Rio
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HLS to the IRS been buying up all the ammo..”

green ammo is less likely to be effective against THEM!!!


20 posted on 07/25/2013 8:26:24 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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