Posted on 07/23/2013 3:38:02 AM PDT by Kaslin
The agonizing death of Detroit is cause for celebration. Its the first of the liberal-run big cities and states to fall, and we should welcome its collapse with glee.
Yeah, liberals, eventually you do run out of other peoples money.
The blue state model is a terminal disease, and Detroit is its poster child. Only this is one telethon where we should pledge that we wont pay a single dime to keep the progressive party going a single minute longer.
Detroit represents the epitome of the blue state, Democrat machine liberalism that Barack Obama represents. Well, not one damn cent for Barrys Kids.
Liberal media mouthpieces like the New York Times are all in a tizzy because the consequences conservatives have been warning America about for years are finally arriving. We have to step in and save Detroit, it cries.
We dont have to do any such thing.
Steven Rattner, writing in the Times, says But apart from voting in elections, the 700,000 remaining residents of the Motor City are no more responsible for Detroits problems than were the victims of Hurricane Sandy for theirs, and eventually Congress decided to help them. And apart from the iceberg, the Titanics maiden voyage went swimmingly.
This is a problem created by the people of Detroit. Its their problem to solve without our money.
If you listen to the hand-wringers, youll never hear an honest examination of why Detroit is imploding. Nor do they offer any evidence that the half-wits who elected the quarter-wit Democrats governing them have learned anything at all from this trip to the precipice.
The most hilarious arguments are the ones where liberals whine about the middle class fleeing from the city, taking jobs and the tax base with them. Sure, regular folks took a look at the well-governed, stable, crime-free Utopia that was Detroit and thought, Yeah, we need to get the hell out of here.
Liberalism and the political, economic and social pathologies it spawned drove everyone out of Detroit who wasnt feeding at the municipal trough, whether through some form of government job or some form of government handout.
This isnt a chicken and the egg brainteaser. Its simple cause and effect. Liberalism turned Detroit into a hideous dump that milked those who contribute to society to pay off the Democrat machines constituents who dont. People didnt feel like living in a pig sty while serving as piggy banks for corrupt Democrats. The productive decided that while the non-productive might win by voting at the ballot box, the productive would win by voting with their feet.
Yeah, Detroit had some hard knocks. The auto industry collapsed, which is not surprising since it was the blue state model in corporatist form. But every city takes hits. Dallas and Houston have been slammed again and again by the energy sector, and they keep coming back.
Not Detroit. It keeps milking the GM went bye-bye excuse, with its apologists never mentioning that GM didnt just disappear. GM just went to places that didnt suck.
What did Detroit do about it? Nothing. The auto industry started changing decades ago, but liberals act as if that change somehow excuses Detroits legacy of corruption and incompetence. Detroits most significant export in decades was Eminem. Thats reason enough to want to see a stake driven through its metaphorical heart.
But, of course its all the Republicans fault for some reason. Rattner says, If I thought it could pass Congress, Id happily support a special appropriation, but the politics of any spending are toxic in Washington these days. Yeah, it is toxic to suggest that those of us who didnt vote in a succession of criminals to run our governments give our money to morons who did. And, in any sane universe, no one would ever suggest doing so.
But this is the Times, the voice of Big Liberalism. It opines that, America is just as much about aiding those less fortunate as it is about personal responsibility. Except, America isnt about aiding the less fortunate. Its about the less fortunate working to make themselves more fortunate understanding that liberals think people become financially stable not through hard work but by dumb luck.
Not surprisingly, in a Times article referring to the miserable condition of a city run by a liberal Democrat machine for half a century, there is no mention of either liberalism or Democrats. Thats like writing about obesity and not mentioning food.
The liberal elite, which loves root causes, absolutely refuses to admit that the root cause of Detroits woes is liberalism itself. Liberals are like a drunk who wants the benefits of sobriety while continuing to hoist highballs. Step One is admitting that their ideology has a problem.
Fat chance. For liberalism, the answer is 5, and its the 2 + 2 thats somehow screwed up.
We conservatives should sit back and giggle as liberalism hits bottom. No, Detroits collapse wont teach liberals anything. The big cities and the blue states will fail no matter what. Liberalism is the locust of political ideologies; it will eat everything in sight and then starve.
But Detroit may serve a useful purpose once again as a cautionary example for future generations, so for that reason as well we should welcome its passing. And as it dies, the last words ringing in its ears should be the voices of laughing conservatives saying, We told you so.
Michigan, is indeed, a right to work state, as of March 2013.
That’s a great rant right there. Fantastic.
Except, I wouldn’t waste my time laughing. Conservatives should view Detroit the same way they view that last wad of toilet paper - - just drop it in the toilet, press the handle, buckle up, and walk away. Forget about it.
I’m not laughing. They’re coming after my money to make up for the money they wasted.
What rock did you crawl out from under? Seen one of those 'county-by-county', blue-red election maps lately? If you want to "offer solutions" to the same concentrated Democrat parasite nests ("cities") that routinely give us scum like the African communist Ubama as well as every single Democrat senator, knock yourself out. And if you want to flush money down those toilet, make it your own money, not mine. Leave real conservatives out of it.
Cant really say some of the folks here are what I'd personally call conservative any more as well as in the Country as a whole.
Believe me, we're happy to disappoint you.
Perhaps you could stop appropriating the word 'Conservative' when it's apparent that you mean 'Socialist' or 'Marxist' or some damn thing.
Believe me the sentiment is mutual..
I will laugh as soon as I’m assured it won’t cost me anything sitting out here in AZ. That assurance is not worth a plugged nickel as long as the Gummint is run by Obastard, Reid and Boehner.
Agreed.
And we are not 'all in this together'.
Unfortunately, we are. I don't like it, and I'm sure you don't like it either. But we are all in this together.
Because it's your tax dollars and my tax dollars that will continue to support the welfare crowd in Detroit.
And it's your tax dollars and my tax dollars that will bail Detroit out.
And there will be a bail out. It might be a stealth bailout, like the Fed's guaranteeing new Detroit bonds, or something like that. But there will be a bail-out. And unless conservative principles are applied, the bail-out will fail.
If conservative principles are applied then there won't be a bail-out.
Detroit has assets it could sell - such as $2 billion (!) in art treasures - but nothing like enough. It must dissolve its pathological obligations in bankruptcy. Nothing else can restore Detroit.
The best way for the bail out to fail is for it to not happen. Given the current political climate, it’s unlikely it will. Detroit might be a symbolic, local failure, but there are dozens just like it ready to metastasize if Uncle Sam gets involved. Even a lot of liberals understand that this is an existential threat.
Bailing out Detroit as a one off might be politically feasible. Bailing out Detroit as the harbinger of a wave of nationwide city (and state) bankruptcies? It would collapse the U.S. economy as fast as the USSR imploded.
And Barack ‘Present’ Obama isn’t the guy who’s going to lead either charge. He’s going to do nothing, which, by default, is a choice to let Detroit go under. But doing nothing is more defensible than being the guy who was last seen starting an avalanche.
The only thing conservatives can do is hold the line, and let reality take it’s grim toll on Detroit. Only pain can teach a fool. Further compassion is merely denying the fool his education.
That would be dependent upon having a population that desires to fix the problems and actually work to improve their community - something Detroit has been sorely lacking for decades. Ideologically, I agree with your premise - realistically, I see no possible way that the remaining denizens of that hellhole would be willing to do what it would take to revitalize that community and make it a productive environment, welcoming of innovation, capital and financial freedom.
It's graphic, but accurate.
The problem is we've been telling Detroit for 50 years ways to avoid this disaster. Many have given solution after solution. All have been ignored. You are acting like this is some sudden disaster that snuck up on the city unawares, and not the predictable consequence of decades of stupidity.
If I tell a grown man not to put a fork into a light socket and he does so, I might pity him. If he continues to do so over and over again, he's a moron and doesn't deserve my pity...
Further compassion would be what they call in the drug rehab business, "enabling". No, it is imperative that conservatives (ie., working, taxpaying, traditional American familes) scream to the rooftops against one more tax dollar getting flushed down that toilet known as "Detroit". In the business community that would be what they call, "throwing good money after bad".
In order for what you suggest to work, you have to have a political structure that will nurture those efforts and not strangle them in infancy with onerous taxes and regulations. That will not happen with the current political environment. If the citizens of Detroit were to rise up and clean their political house, showing that they are serious about correcting the problems they have, then your suggestions might have merit. But until then, it would be like giving a liver transplant to a practicing alcoholic - a very expensive procedure that is ultimately doomed to fail.
Sorry, it's normally 105%.......
Nothing funny or humorous watching one of the nation’s (formerly) greatest cities deteriorating. It’s criminal.
Well! Michigan finally did something right.....however it is like giving a drowned man a life vest. It’s too late.
As has any respect I had for you as a poster.
But since you repeatedly refuse to address my points and act out on emotion, I’m not the clown here. So be it.
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