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To: freeangel

Your analogy has some validity but also some crucial weaknesses. People are born into Islam just like people are born with a racial identity, but a black person cannot decide to quit being black. On the other hand, a person could decide to leave Islam. I don’t think blacks who live their lives as they should are in any way obligated to denounce other blacks for their wrong behavior in order to be accepted as black people.

Even though it may be human nature to be prejudice, we ought to resist this inclination. I like this conversation in The African Queen:

Charlie Allnut (Bogart): A man takes a drop too much once in a while, it’s only human nature.
Rose Sayer (Hepburn): Nature, Mr. Allnut, is what we are put in this world to rise above.


209 posted on 07/22/2013 5:59:09 PM PDT by unlearner (You will never come to know that which you do not know until you first know that you do not know it.)
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To: unlearner

That little bit from African Queen is touching, truly.
I fear your desire to remain level headed and rising above is exactly how we ended up in this fine mess we are in now.

Sorry, if all those who collude to continue telling lie after lie about a man who had his life turned upside down, don’t like hearing the absolute TRUTH about a kid gone bad, well to me, that’s just too damn bad.

You are free to be all lovey and happy with things, go for it. You might have missed that we keep getting dragged into the gutter over this crap. For me, it’s well past time to push back. I wonder, do you like the mapping this evil government is attempting to impose? Shall we all just rise above this social engineering experiment?

Sorry, your take is just flat out wrong at this time in history.


214 posted on 07/22/2013 9:15:56 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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To: unlearner

“but a black person cannot decide to quit being black. On the other hand, a person could decide to leave Islam. “

Oh, my—you have been brainwashed by the left. I am not talking about people choosing their religion or not being able to choose to be black. I am talking about choosing what is morally right. Hate the sin but love the sinner. If a person chooses to accept the sins of radicalism in either case rather than speaking out against the sin, then he is complicit in that sin. They are not “rising above it”.


218 posted on 07/23/2013 3:18:07 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: unlearner
On the other hand, a person could decide to leave Islam.

The penalty for apostasy in Islam is death.

219 posted on 07/23/2013 3:26:16 AM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: unlearner
People are born into Islam just like people are born with a racial identity, but a black person cannot decide to quit being black. On the other hand, a person could decide to leave Islam. I don’t think blacks who live their lives as they should are in any way obligated to denounce other blacks for their wrong behavior in order to be accepted as black people.

It appears you can only be accepted as a "black person" by other blacks. The narrative is that whites just don't "get" what it means to be black. It also appears that a black person can indeed decide to quit being black, and they are looked upon by the "authentic" black community with no less hatred and venom than is reserved for apostates by devout Muslims.

220 posted on 07/23/2013 3:31:12 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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