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Eric Holder vs. Toilet Paper Holder
Townhall.com ^ | July 22, 2013 | Katie Kieffer

Posted on 07/22/2013 5:20:29 AM PDT by Kaslin

Toilet paper holders. Cup holders. Cigar Holders. Various holders do an excellent job of "holding." Eric Holder is a U.S. attorney general who is ironically failing to live up to his name and uphold the law.

Most recently, Holder disparaged 92 years of U.S. Supreme Court precedent regarding so-called “stand your ground” laws.

Holder has been Obama’s attorney general for well over four years, and he has never made a public statement about "stand your ground" laws. Suddenly, last week, as Zimmerman trial verdict protesters called for the abolishment of Florida’s stand-your-ground law, he decided to end his silence. Holder probably figured: “The media’s got my back here. If I fudge about 'stand your ground' laws, they won’t hold me accountable.”

So, on Tuesday of last week, Holder gave a speech at the annual conference for the National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) and stated that "stand your ground" laws:

“…senselessly expand the concept of self-defense and sow dangerous conflict in our neighborhoods” and “By allowing, and perhaps encouraging, violent situations to escalate in public, such laws undermine public safety.”

On Wednesday, Minnesota Governor Mark Dayton chimed in with his two cents worth of nonsense:

“…these kinds of laws … have catastrophic effects.” He added: “My personal opinion -- I don’t have all the information the jury had -- Mr. Zimmerman went way beyond what was necessary in the situation.”

Dayton vetoed a "stand your ground" law in February that would have made Minnesota’s self-defense law similar to Florida’s law. State laws vary, but 25 states have some version of "stand your ground" permitting citizens to remain in the place where they are lawfully located when confronted by an unlawful intimidation; instead of retreating, they may use lethal force to defend themselves.

Dayton is a career politician and trust fund kid who is better qualified for yachting with elite partiers like John Kerry than governing the state of Minnesota. But Holder passed the bar exam and took an oath to defend the U.S. Constitution at one point in his life. Unless Holder suffers from premature dementia, he knows better than to disparage 92 years of Supreme Court precedent as well as the 2nd and 4th Amendments.

Here are the FACTS that Holder and Dayton failed to mention:

1) The day before Holder made his comments, a female jury member in the George Zimmerman trial (identified as B37) went public for the first time on CNN’s Anderson Cooper 360 program. She stated that all six of the jury members who found Hispanic Zimmerman not guilty of second degree murder of black Trayvon Martin believed that race was absolutely not a factor in Martin’s death.

She added that she had “no doubt” that in the moments before Zimmerman pulled out his gun he feared Martin was about to kill him. After all, a neighborhood eyewitness had testified to seeing Martin on top of Zimmerman in a MMA style “ground and pound” mount, hurling blows at Zimmerman.

2) Zimmerman waited to use lethal violence as a last resort, when Martin was smashing his head into the cement, and he thought his head was going to “explode” after Martin had caught sight of the gun holstered at Zimmerman’s hip and yelled: “You’re going to die tonight!” Many legal experts, including law professors and prosecutors, have concurred with what jury member B37 suggested to CNN: The Zimmerman case was a case of basic self-defense, not "stand your ground."

Zimmerman had the right to defend himself per the 2nd Amendment (“right of the people to keep and bear arms”) and the Fourth Amendment ("right of the people to be secure in their persons”). Even without the Constitution, Zimmerman would have had the right to defend himself: Natural Law, which comes from reason, tells you that you own your body and you have the right to defend it against lethal threats with lethal force.

3) "Stand your ground" laws do not increase violence, as Holder and Dayton suggested. Quite the opposite, actually. States that implemented some form of stand-your-ground law reduced overall violent crime by 11 percent and murder by nine percent, Professor John Lott has shown in his book More Guns Less Crime(3rd Ed.).

If anything incites violence, it is the irrational and vitriolic comments made by leaders like Holder and Dayton, not "stand your ground" laws.

The Zimmerman incident occurred in Florida. But in California last week, protesters threw rocks at police, punched an officer in the chest, assaulted a news photographer and reporter to the point of hospitalization, vandalized a Wal-Mart store, chased down a restaurant server with a hammer, jumped on cars and ran recklessly through the streets of Los Angeles and Oakland.

If these California protests are not examples of “unnecessary” violence that “escalated in public,” what are they? California’s violence was not provoked by "stand your ground" laws in Florida; it was provoked by leaders like Holder who are whipping up anger and animosity between Americans who would otherwise be friends and neighbors.

Stand your ground against Eric Holder’s rhetoric, because he is failing to uphold the law. If there were a contest to see who did their job better -- Eric Holder or a toilet paper holder -- the winner would be the latter.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Government
KEYWORDS: agericholder; blackrage; ericholder; georgezimmerman; holder; race; selfdefense; standyourgroundlaws; trayvonmartin

1 posted on 07/22/2013 5:20:29 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
States that implemented some form of stand-your-ground law reduced overall violent crime by 11 percent and murder by nine percent

A meaningless stat unless compared with states that did not implement SYG.

2 posted on 07/22/2013 5:39:17 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Kaslin

Lets face it the democrats just want us to give in. They feel that we shouldn’t have the right to defend ourselves or our neighborhoods. Ironically, cities with the most restrictive gun laws have the worst crime - Chicago. Even more ironically, George Zimmerman didn’t need to invoke stand your ground. So do the libs really think Mr. Zimmerman should have just let Mr. Martin beat him to death?


3 posted on 07/22/2013 5:42:48 AM PDT by wewereright
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To: Kaslin

This is completely ridiculous as the Martin/Zimmerman episode had nothing to do with SYG and everything to do with plain old self defense.


4 posted on 07/22/2013 5:47:30 AM PDT by upchuck (To the faceless, jack-booted government bureaucrat who just scanned this post: SCREW YOU!)
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To: Kaslin

Marking this for later to read, but for now I’ll just say that Eric “Holder” couldn’t “hold” my jock strap.


5 posted on 07/22/2013 6:03:05 AM PDT by Bullish (Psalm 46)
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To: upchuck
Martin/Zimmerman episode had nothing to do with SYG and everything to do with plain old self defense.<<

EXACTLY!......SYG is a possible legal defense just as insanity can be used as a possible defense....

Neither was used in this case!...the talking idiots might as well be talking about the insanity defense in the Z/M trial...it has the same amount of relevance....NOTHING!

6 posted on 07/22/2013 6:06:23 AM PDT by M-cubed
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To: Kaslin

7 posted on 07/22/2013 6:07:03 AM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: blueyon; LucyT; pax_et_bonum; autumnraine; maggief; Silentgypsy; thouworm; AllAmericanGirl44; ...

The eric holder is on sale all year ‘round. Prices vary. Colors don’t.


8 posted on 07/22/2013 6:36:47 AM PDT by MestaMachine (My caps work, You gotta earn them.)
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To: upchuck

It’s pretty simple, folks...

Don’t want to be on the wrong end of a self defense shooting?

Don’t attack someone that could be armed.


9 posted on 07/22/2013 6:38:20 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: JoeProBono

“He’s just doing that because he likes you...”


10 posted on 07/22/2013 6:38:50 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Kaslin; MestaMachine

It would be rather difficult to exercise the option to retreat while somebody was on top of you slamming your head into the ground.


11 posted on 07/22/2013 6:53:31 AM PDT by Silentgypsy (You don't like the way I drive? Stay off the sidewalk.)
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To: Kaslin

12 posted on 07/22/2013 7:31:55 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy (Be Brave! Fear is just the opposite of Nar!)
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To: MestaMachine
The eric holder is on sale all year ‘round. Prices vary. Colors don’t.

Yeah. Like the days of the old Model T Ford. You can buy any color you want - as long as it's black!

13 posted on 07/22/2013 7:58:28 AM PDT by Gritty (Whensoever the General Government assumes undelegated powers, its acts are void-Jefferson, 1798)
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To: Kaslin

Judge Roy Bean would have strung up both Obama & Holder—for being criminals.


14 posted on 07/22/2013 9:23:36 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: FRiends

This would do a better job as Attorney General
than the current "holder" of that position.



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15 posted on 07/22/2013 12:11:13 PM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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