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‘Madrassas Are Emptying’ for Final US Fighting Season in Afghanistan
The Hill ^ | Friday, July 19, 2013 | Carlo Muñoz

Posted on 07/20/2013 7:21:43 AM PDT by kristinn

COMBAT OUTPOST WILDERNESS, Afghanistan — The Taliban and its allies are plotting a bloody and spectacular end to U.S. involvement in Afghanistan.

Foreign fighters are pouring into the eastern part of the country to take on U.S. and allied forces in what will likely be the final fighting season for American troops here.

Pakistani-based terror groups like the Haqqani Network and others are calling upon “every house, every family” to send fighters into Afghanistan, Afghan army commanders stationed at the American base in Paktia province told The Hill.

“The madrassas are emptying" in Pakistan, added Lt. Col. David Hamann, who leads the American Security Force Assistance Advisory Team (SFAAT) at Combat Outpost Matun Hill.

The influx of foreign insurgents ahead of the White House’s 2014 troop withdrawal deadline comes just as the administration is facing mounting public pressure to end the war quickly.

The administration is struggling to decide whether to leave any troops behind after 2014, and has revived the “zero option” postwar plan that would leave no troops in the country post-2014.

The offensive by terrorist groups in a fighting season that continues until snows fill mountain passes this fall suggests they hope to take back the country as swiftly as possible, and will not waste any time waiting for the U.S. to leave.

It also suggests terrorists want to impose as much pain as they can on the U.S. in the months remaining.

While there is always an influx of foreign fighters as part of the annual fighting season, this year looks different, according to Lt. Col. Mohammad Ebrahim, commander of the Afghan army's 6th Kandak.

Pakistani militants in North and South Waziristan are ordering every family in those regions to send all fighting-age males into Afghanistan.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; afghanwar; islam; jihad; muslim; obama; pakistan; taliban; waronterror; waziristan; wot
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To: Manly Warrior
I am glad that the madrassas’ are emptying and that AQ and its affiliates are encouraging every fanatic to converge on AFG.

I agree, and for the same reasons. They'll be drunk on "Allah has granted us victory!" nonsense and boastfully, proudly march right into our sights.

21 posted on 07/20/2013 8:02:56 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: kristinn
Once Obama told his muslim pals the date of our impending and surrender and departure any further loss of American lives became a travesty.

It is a sad thing to say, but this generation of brave men and women will have to learn to live with the dark cloud of betrayal by our government, much as our veterans from the Vietnam era do.

But in this case it might even be worse because we have an absolute traitor as Commander In Chief - a man who has come out of the closet and is clearly supporting the advance of the militant muslims while he engineers the weakening and decline of our country.

May God save us all because our own leaders are now the true enemy of America.


22 posted on 07/20/2013 8:08:54 AM PDT by Iron Munro (They Old. That's Old School People. We In A New School, Our Generation)
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To: no-to-illegals
Sometimes being the last man out is more dangerous than being the first one in

That's what my Infantry PL son told me, and I am scared to death.

He'll be there till September.

Please keep him in you prayers along with the rest of our brave men and women.

23 posted on 07/20/2013 8:09:12 AM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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To: kristinn
Obama has betrayed 12 years of our armed forces' blood and sacrifice so he can hand over Afghanistan to the Taliban which ruled there before the 9//11 attacks.

I doubt we'd ever "win" there, no matter who runs the war.

We'll leave, for whatever reason, and they'll go back to the way they've been living for the last thousand years.

24 posted on 07/20/2013 8:09:35 AM PDT by Lee N. Field (Ride to ruin, and the worldÂ’s ending! Death! Death!. DEATH! FORTH EORLINGAS!)
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To: Robe

Will do.


25 posted on 07/20/2013 8:12:56 AM PDT by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: C210N

Afghanistan has seen everybody come and go at one time. Nobody ever learns the lesson. After we leave they will go back to killing and raping each other with great abandonment. Its who they are.


26 posted on 07/20/2013 8:13:45 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: C210N
It is fallacious to compare Afghanistan to Iraq in many ways, geography,political system, religion come to mind.
The better model would be French Vietnam. The US is isolated, no good access or exit, the people do not like us, there is nothing of real geopolitical value there...and a defeat in Afghanistan would destroy what is left of US credibility.
And it looks ridiculous now to say that we, after ten some years, are killing our way out of a problem. Iraq and Libya are violent, hate the US and the West, and we still have forces(regular or militarized State Department employees or mercenaries) there. An endless war at unlimited cost is not a sane or realistic strategy, except in the minds Colonel Blimps fighting past wars again. We are getting repeatedly slapped in head and then claiming victory because the other guy has a sore hand. We have taken casualties, killed God knows who or how many or why, spent a trillion or so dollars and now we have a gutted military, oil at $108 per barrel, and a Weimer Republic/Zimbabwe uncountable debt. I do not know how many subtle strategic victories like that we can take.
The only way out of our chosen sandstorm may be very painful.
TWB
27 posted on 07/20/2013 8:16:20 AM PDT by TWhiteBear (Sarah Palin...The Flame of the North)
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To: Vigilanteman
That is a valid distinction. The Islamists don't have a Nixon or a Kissinger to deliver the goods if they don't behave. They have no fear for the insipid Obama/Kerry charade, and only contempt for America.

I believe this "final push" scenario on the part of the jihadis has been predicted many times by almost any sensible observer, once the prospect of a final US pullout was confirmed.

28 posted on 07/20/2013 8:23:19 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Future Snake Eater
They'll be drunk on "Allah has granted us victory!" nonsense and boastfully, proudly march right into our sights.

Won't matter a whit. We can kill a few thousand extra but there will be tens of millions available to take their place. And a year from now, we'll be gone.

29 posted on 07/20/2013 8:28:06 AM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: kristinn

Pray for our warrior heroes who have been given ROE-shackles to fight a war.

The father of my grandchildren was deployed to Afghanistan on 05JUL2013 for a year.


30 posted on 07/20/2013 8:33:35 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel
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To: kristinn
Afghanistan is Obama's Vietnam?

Let's go back to 1975, when Saigon fell. Gerald Ford was president. Should Ford be blamed for losing Vietnam? After all, there was talk at the time of using massive B52 strikes to slow down the NVA advance.

But Ford declined. The Congress and the country just didn't have the stomach for it. And Saigon fell.

So did Ford lose Vietnam? Most folks would say no. The blame goes to LBJ. It was LBJ who made the lion's share of bad decisions that led to that disaster.

The same goes with Afghanistan. Obama will probably preside over the fall of Kabul. Or it might happen under is successor.

Either way, the LBJ equivalent for Afghanistan is not Obama. It's Bush. And that's a hard thing to say.

31 posted on 07/20/2013 8:38:32 AM PDT by Leaning Right
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To: hinckley buzzard

Definitely, but it’ll take the wind out of their sails for a while. Unless we pursue full-on genocide, we’ll never truly be rid of the threat, so we have to take the victories as they come.


32 posted on 07/20/2013 8:43:10 AM PDT by Future Snake Eater (CrossFit.com)
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To: Leaning Right
Either way, the LBJ equivalent for Afghanistan is not Obama. It's Bush. And that's a hard thing to say

LBJ was going to implement a surge in Vietnam, but then gave into political pressure and caved, sending in far fewer men than those in field command thought necessary.

In contrast, President Bush committed to a surge and his successor, President Obama, is the one who decided to send far fewer than those in field command thought necessary - and he was able to do this easily because the press ran interference for him.

33 posted on 07/20/2013 8:51:14 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: Yulee
Actually the Dems want this to end badly

Nothing new.Recall the Copperheads

They claim to be pacifist, more like malingers.

I can proudly say 'I served in VN with a pacifist infantryman'! He did all that was ask except chambering a round! He would calmly say that he would NEVER kill or injure, ever.

He walked the walk. Was converted into a cook MOS.

34 posted on 07/20/2013 8:51:36 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: kristinn

Helicopter on the roof pic coming right up.


35 posted on 07/20/2013 8:51:51 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: equaviator

[I haven’t heard anything about the opium trade and industry there since Bush was in the WH.]

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/16/world/asia/afghanistan-opium-production-increases-for-3rd-year.html?_r=0
Not surprising given the pr tectin  it's been given. 

 

opium throughout history

c.3400 B.C.

The opium poppy is cultivated in lower Mesopotamia. The Sumerians refer to it as Hul Gil, the ‘joy plant.’ The Sumerians would soon pass along the plant and its euphoric effects to the Assyrians. The art of poppy-culling would continue from the Assyrians to the Babylonians who in turn would pass their knowledge onto the Egyptians.

c.1300 B.C.
In the capital city of Thebes, Egyptians begin cultivation of opium thebaicum,grown in their famous poppy fields.The opium trade flourishes during the reign of Thutmose IV, Akhenaton and King Tutankhamen. The trade route included the Phoenicians and Minoans who move the profitable item across the Mediterranean Sea into Greece, Carthage, and Europe.

c.1100 B.C.
On the island of Cyprus, the “Peoples of the Sea” craft surgical-quality culling knives to harvest opium, which they would cultivate, trade and smoke before the fall of Troy.

c. 460 B.C.
Hippocrates, “the father of medicine”, dismisses the magical attributes of opium but acknowledges its usefulness as a narcotic and styptic in treating internal diseases, diseases of women and epidemics.

330 B.C.
Alexander the Great introduces opium to the people of Persia and India.

A.D. 400
Opium thebaicum, from the Egytpian fields at Thebes, is first introduced to China by Arab traders.

1300’s
Opium disappears for two hundred years from European historical record. Opium had become a taboo subject for those in circles of learning during the Holy Inquisition. In the eyes of the Inquisition, anything from the East was linked to the Devil.

1500
The Portugese, while trading along the East China Sea, initiate the smoking ofopium. The effects were instantaneous as they discovered but it was a practice the Chinese considered barbaric and subversive.

1527
During the height of the Reformation, opium is reintroduced into European medical literature by Paracelsus as laudanum. These black pills or “Stones of Immortality” were made of opium thebaicum, citrus juice and quintessence of gold and prescribed as painkillers.

1600’s
Residents of Persia and India begin eating and drinking opium mixtures for recreational use.

Portugese merchants carrying cargoes of Indian opium through Macao direct its trade flow into China.

1606
Ships chartered by Elizabeth I are instructed to purchase the finest Indian opium and transport it back to England.

1680
English apothecary, Thomas Sydenham, introduces Sydenham’s Laudanum, a compound of opium, sherry wine and herbs. His pills along with others of the time become popular remedies for numerous ailments.

1700
The Dutch export shipments of Indian opium to China and the islands of Southeast Asia; the Dutch introduce the practice of smoking opium in a tobacco pipe to the Chinese.

1729
Chinese emperor, Yung Cheng, issues an edictprohibiting the smoking of opium and its domestic sale, except under license for use as medicine.

1750
The British East India Company assumes control of Bengal and Bihar, opium-growing districts of India. British shipping dominates the opium trade out of Calcutta to China.

1753
Linnaeus, the father of botany, first classifies the poppy, Papaver somniferum— ‘sleep-inducing’, in his book Genera Plantarum.

1767
The British East India Company’s import of opium to China reaches a staggering two thousand chests of opium per year.

1793
The British East India Company establishes a monopoly on the opium trade. All poppy growers in India were forbidden to sell opium to competitor trading companies.

1799
China’s emperor, Kia King, bans opium completely, making trade and poppy cultivation illegal.

1800
The British Levant Company purchases nearly half of all of the opium coming out of Smyrna, Turkey strictly for importation to Europe and the United States.

1803
Friedrich Sertuerner of Paderborn, Germany discovers the active ingredient of opium by dissolving it in acid then neutralizing it with ammonia. The result: alkaloids—Principium somniferum or morphine.

Physicians believe that opium had finally been perfected and tamed. Morphine is lauded as “God’s own medicine” for its reliablity, long-lasting effects and safety.

1805
A smuggler from Boston, Massachusetts, Charles Cabot, attempts to purchase opium from the British, then smuggle it into China under the auspices of British smugglers.

1812
American John Cushing, under the employ of his uncles’ business, James and Thomas H. Perkins Company of Boston, acquires his wealth from smuggling Turkish opium to Canton.

1816
John Jacob Astor of New York City joins the opium smuggling trade. His American Fur Company purchases ten tons of Turkish opium then ships the contraband item to Canton on the Macedonian. Astor would later leave the China opium trade and sell solely to England.

1819
Writer John Keats and other English literary personalities experiment with opium intended for strict recreational use—simply for the high and taken at extended, non-addictive intervals

1821
Thomas De Quincey publishes his autobiographical account of opium addiction, ‘Confessions of an English Opium-eater.’

1827
E. Merck & Company of Darmstadt, Germany, begins commercial manufacturing of morphine.

1830
The British dependence on opium for medicinal and recreational use reaches an all time high as 22,000 pounds of opium is imported from Turkey and India.

Jardine-Matheson & Company of London inherit India and its opium from the British East India Company once the mandate to rule and dictate the trade policies of British India are no longer in effect.

1837
Elizabeth Barrett Browning falls under the spell of morphine. This, however, does not impede her ability to write “poetical paragraphs.”

March 18, 1839
Lin Tse-Hsu, imperial Chinese commissioner in charge of suppressing the opium traffic, orders all foreign traders to surrender their opium. In response, the British send expenditionary warships to the coast of China, beginning The First Opium War.

1840
New Englanders bring 24,000 pounds of opium into the United States. This catches the attention of U.S. Customs which promptly puts a duty fee on the import.

1841
The Chinese are defeated by the British in the First Opium War. Along with paying a large indemnity, Hong Kong is ceded to the British.

1843
Dr. Alexander Wood of Edinburgh discovers a new technique of administering morphine, injection with a syringe. He finds the effects of morphine on his patients instantaneous and three times more potent.

1852
The British arrive in lower Burma, importing large quantities of opium from India and selling it through a government-controlled opium monopoly.

1856
The British and French renew their hostilities against China in the Second Opium War. In the aftermath of the struggle, China is forced to pay another indemnity. The importation of opium is legalized.

Opium production increases along the highlands of Southeast Asia.

1874
English researcher, C.R. Wright first synthesizes heroin, or diacetylmorphine, by boiling morphine over a stove.

In San Francisco, smoking opium in the city limits is banned and is confined to neighboring Chinatowns and their opium dens.

1878
Britain passes the Opium Act with hopes of reducing opium consumption. Under the new regulation, the selling of opium is restricted to registered Chinese opium smokers and Indian opium eaters while the Burmese are strictly prohibited from smoking opium.

1886
The British acquire Burma’s northeast region, the Shan state. Production and smuggling of opium along the lower region of Burma thrives despite British efforts to maintain a strict monopoly on the opium trade.

1890
U.S. Congress, in its earliest law-enforcement legislation on narcotics, imposes a tax on opium and morphine.

Tabloids owned by William Randolph Hearst publish stories of white women being seduced by Chinese men and their opium to invoke fear of the ‘Yellow Peril’, disguised as an “anti-drug” campaign.

1895
Heinrich Dreser working for The Bayer Company of Elberfeld, Germany, finds that diluting morphine with acetyls produces a drug without the common morphine side effects.Bayer begins production of diacetylmorphine and coins the name “heroin.” Heroin would not be introduced commercially for another three years.

Early 1900’s
The philanthropic Saint James Society in the U.S. mounts a campaign to supply free samples of heroin through the mail to morphine addicts who are trying give up their habits.

Efforts by the British and French to control opium production in Southeast Asia are successful. Nevertheless, this Southeast region, referred to as the ‘Golden Triangle’, eventually becomes a major player in the profitable opium trade during the 1940’s.

1902
In various medical journals, physicians discuss the side effects of using heroin as a morphine step-down cure. Several physicians would argue that their patients suffered from heroin withdrawal symptoms equal to morphine addiction.

1903
Heroin addiction rises to alarming rates.

1905
U.S. Congress bans opium.
1906
China and England finally enact a treaty restricting the Sino-Indian opium trade.

Several physicians experiment with treatments for heroin addiction. Dr. Alexander Lambert and Charles B. Towns tout their popular cure as the most “advanced, effective and compassionate cure” for heroin addiction. The cure consisted of a 7 day regimen, which included a five day purge of heroin from the addict’s system with doses of belladonna delirium.

U.S. Congress passes the Pure Food and Drug Act requiring contents labeling on patent medicines by pharmaceutical companies. As a result, the availabilty of opiates and opiate consumers significantly declines.

1909
The first federal drug prohibition passes in the U.S. outlawing the imporation of opium. It was passed in preparation for the Shanghai Conference, at which the US presses for legislation aimed at suppressing the sale of opium to China.

February 1, 1909
The International Opium Commission convenes in Shanghai. Heading the U.S. delegation are Dr. Hamilton Wright and Episcopal Bishop Henry Brent. Both would try to convince the international delegation of the immoral and evil effects of opium.

1910
After 150 years of failed attempts to rid the country of opium, the Chinese are finally successful in convincing the British to dismantle the India-China opium trade.

Dec. 17, 1914
The passage of Harrison Narcotics Act which aims to curb drug (especially cocaine but also heroin) abuse and addiction. It requires doctors, pharmacists and others who prescribed narcotics to register and pay a tax.

1923
The U.S. Treasury Department’s Narcotics Division (the first federal drug agency) bans all legal narcotics sales. With the prohibition of legal venues to purchase heroin, addicts are forced to buy from illegal street dealers.

1925
In the wake of the first federal ban on opium, a thriving black market opens up in New York’s Chinatown.

1930’s
The majority of illegal heroin smuggled into the U.S. comes from China and is refined in Shanghai and Tietsin.

Early 1940’s
During World War II, opium trade routes are blocked and the flow of opium from India and Persia is cut off. Fearful of losing their opium monopoly, the French encourage Hmong farmers to expand their opium production.

1945-1947
Burma gains its independence from Britain at the end of World War II. Opium cultivation and trade flourishes in the Shan states.

1948-1972
Corsican gangsters dominate the U.S. heroin market through their connection with Mafia drug distributors. After refining the raw Turkish opium in Marseille laboratories, the heroin is made easily available for purchase by junkies on New York City streets.

1950’s
U.S. efforts to contain the spread of Communism in Asia involves forging alliances with tribes and warlords inhabiting the areas of the Golden Triangle, (an expanse covering Laos, Thailand and Burma), thus providing accessibility and protection along the southeast border of China. In order to maintain their relationship with the warlords while continuing to fund the struggle against communism, the U.S. and France supply the drug warlords and their armies with ammunition, arms and air transport for the production and sale of opium. The result: an explosion in the availability and illegal flow of heroin into the United States and into the hands of drug dealers and addicts.

1962
Burma outlaws opium.

1965-1970
U.S. involvement in Vietnam is blamed for the surge in illegal heroin being smuggled into the States. To aid U.S. allies, the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) sets up a charter airline, Air America, to transport raw opium from Burma and Laos. As well, some of the opium would be transported to Marseille by Corsican gangsters to be refined into heroin and shipped to the U.S via the French connection. The number of heroin addicts in the U.S. reaches an estimated 750,000.

October 1970
Legendary singer, Janis Joplin, is found dead at Hollywood’s Landmark Hotel, a victim of an “accidental heroin overdose.”

1972
Heroin exportation from Southeast Asia’s Golden Triangle, controlled by Shan warlord, Khun Sa,becomes a major source for raw opium in the profitable drug trade.

July 1, 1973
President Nixon creates the DEA (Drug Enforcement Administration) under the Justice Dept. to consolidate virtually all federal powers of drug enforcement in a single agency.

Mid-1970’s
Saigon falls. The heroin epidemic subsides. The search for a new source of raw opium yields Mexico’s Sierra Madre. “Mexican Mud” would temporarily replace “China White” heroin until 1978.

1978
The U.S. and Mexican governments find a means to eliminate the source of raw opium—by spraying poppy fields with Agent Orange. The eradication plan is termed a success as the amount of “Mexican Mud” in the U.S. drug market declines. In response to the decrease in availability of “Mexican Mud”, another source of heroin is found in the Golden Crescent area—Iran, Afghanistan and Pakistan, creating a dramatic upsurge in the production and trade of illegal heroin.

1982
Comedian John Belushi of Animal House fame, dies of a heroin-cocaine—”speedball” overdose.

Sept. 13, 1984
U.S. State Department officials conclude, after more than a decade of crop substitution programs for Third World growers of marijuana, coca or opium poppies, that the tactic cannot work without eradication of the plants and criminal enforcement. Poor results are reported from eradicationprograms in Burma, Pakistan, Mexico and Peru.

1988
Opium production in Burma increases under the rule of the State Law and Order Restoration Council (SLORC), the Burmese junta regime.

The single largest heroin seizure is made in Bangkok. The U.S. suspects that the 2,400-pound shipment of heroin, en route to New York City, originated from the Golden Triangle region, controlled by drug warlord, Khun Sa.

1990
A U.S. Court indicts Khun Sa, leader of the Shan United Army and reputed drug warlord, on heroin trafficking charges. The U.S. Attorney General’s office charges Khun Sa with importing 3,500 pounds of heroin into New York City over the course of eighteen months, as well as holding him responsible for the source of the heroin seized in Bangkok.

1992
Colombia’s drug lords are said to be introducing a high-grade form of heroin into the United States.

1993

The Thai army with support from the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency (DEA) launches its operation to destroy thousands of acres of opium poppies from the fields of the Golden Triangle region.

October 31, 1993
Heroin takes another well-known victim. Twenty-three-year-old actor River Phoenix dies of a heroin-cocaine overdose, the same “speedball” combination that killed comedian John Belushi.

January 1994
Efforts to eradicate opium at its source remains unsuccessful. The Clinton Administration orders a shift in policy away from the anti- drug campaigns of previous administrations. Instead the focus includes “institution building” with the hope that by “strengthening democratic governments abroad, [it] will foster law-abiding behavior and promote legitimate economic opportunity.”

April 1994
Kurt Cobain, lead singer of the Seattle-based alternative rock band, Nirvana, dies of heroin-related suicide.

1995
The Golden Triangle region of Southeast Asia is now the leader in opium production, yielding 2,500 tons annually. According to U.S. drug experts, there are new drug trafficking routes from Burma through Laos, to southern China, Cambodia and Vietnam.

January 1996

Khun Sa, one of Shan state’s most powerful drug warlords, “surrenders” to SLORC. The U.S. is suspicious and fears that this agreement between the ruling junta regime and Khun Sa includes a deal allowing “the opium king” to retain control of his opium trade but in exchange end his 30-year-old revolutionary war against the government.

November 1996
International drug trafficking organizations, including China, Nigeria, Colombia and Mexico are said to be “aggressively marketing heroin in the United States and Europe.”

References

Booth, Martin. Opium: A History. London: Simon & Schuster, Ltd., 1996.

Latimer, Dean, and Jeff Goldberg with an Introduction by William Burroughs. Flowers in the Blood: The Story of Opium. New York: Franklin Watts, 1981

McCoy, Alfred W. The Politics of Heroin: CIA Complicity in the Global Drug Trade. New York: Lawrence Hill Books, 1991.

Musto, David F. The American Disease: Origins of Narcotic Control. New York: Oxford University Press, 1987.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/heroin/etc/history.html

SOSDT

36 posted on 07/20/2013 8:57:06 AM PDT by TArcher ("TO SECURE THESE RIGHTS, governments are instituted among men" -- Does that still work?)
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To: kristinn

In a surprise move, redouble our forces and block the escape routes to Pakistan. We can undo Bush’s failure at Tora Bora.

Perhaps someone can write a song called Tora Bora Ding Dong a Whack Bam Boom.


37 posted on 07/20/2013 9:00:21 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: equaviator

Obama lowered the sea levels in Afghanistan. What did Bush do?


38 posted on 07/20/2013 9:02:52 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: wideawake
President Bush committed to a surge and his successor, President Obama, is the one who decided to send far fewer than those in field command thought necessary

I hear you, and you do make a good point.

But why was an Afghan surge even necessary in 2008? The war should have been over long before then. That's on Bush.

39 posted on 07/20/2013 9:07:12 AM PDT by Leaning Right
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To: kristinn

“in what will likely be the final fighting season,,,”

So much wrong, in one statement. Starting with fighting should happen when, where, and how WE decide. We are murdering our soldiers with incompetent leaders.


40 posted on 07/20/2013 9:10:23 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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