I was in BE685, the Joint Data System Support Center. Not far from the Goal Post and the famous purple water fountain.
I heard it all was flooded up to the Mezzanine level on 9/11.
My last view of the Pentagon, and my favorite:
Posted on 07/20/2013 3:14:57 AM PDT by OwenKellogg
The FAA released a statement in response to questions about an ordinance under consideration in the tiny farming community of Deer Trail, Colo., that would encourage hunters to shoot down drones. The administration reminded the public that it regulates the nation's airspace, including the airspace over cities and towns.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/19/faa-warns-public-against-shooting-guns-at-drones/?test=latestnews#ixzz2ZZz6NbWj
(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...
Leni
When drones are outlawed, only outlaws will have drones!
I was in BE685, the Joint Data System Support Center. Not far from the Goal Post and the famous purple water fountain.
I heard it all was flooded up to the Mezzanine level on 9/11.
My last view of the Pentagon, and my favorite:
“””When drones are outlawed, only outlaws will have drones!””””
Isn’t that what we have now?
Deer Trail is sufficiently open space that there exists air that the FAA does not control. Shoot em down and let the feds try to justify why they were there. I would feel threatened by unknown aircraft overhead.....fire at will boys.
Careful you are coming awfully close to suggesting that soldiers should be killed
Typical rangefinders for hunting would suffice, and will be needed to calculate trajectory.
How many bored guys do you think will be out in their workshops on Saturdays drinking a beer and building a little handheld EMP that can turn a drone off? I’m guessing quite a few. :-)
Fine. We’ll use lasers and EMP devices.
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A small EMP device or simply broadcasting static on whatever control freq. they use would be best ...
Not below specific altitudes except in approach and take-off corridors. IOW they do NOT control the air space five feet over my roof top. GTH FAA!
You mean like this thing?
fromthetrenchesworldreport.com/how-to-build-a-radiodrome-jammer/34089
sorry. I wrote “radiodrome” instead of “radiodrone”. My mistake.
Beams and a five KW amp might do it?.
Having said that I am all in favor of shooting them down if they are used against Americans in our country.
I happened to be working there when Ayers folks set off a bomb in a john there.
If and/or when somebody does shoot down a drone, how will the Feds know where the bullet came from? It’ll be miles away by the time it hits the ground. People in Afghanistan and Pakistan have brought down quite a few of them , using only bullets, much to the embarrassment of the Obama Administration. And if somebody in America helps a drone fall out of the sky, and the Gestapo comes around to investigate, I’m pretty sure all the gun-totin’ good ol’ boys in the area didn’t see or hear a thing.
Now, if only Walmart stocked FIM-92A Stinger missiles . . . sigh.
Many will go into an autonomous climb and stabilize mode, or even return to launch site if remote control is lost. I have seen autonomous landings within 1 meter of original takeoff site.
“Whatever happened to property owners owning everything above their land? If a neighbor’s tree grows over your property, it’s your tree to chop down up to the property line.”
Ownership of airspace by private citizens has not been allowed for generations.
Congressional legislation of 1927 established the feds as supreme regulatory authority: not just over airspace, but over safety, commerce, pilot training/licensure, and the like. Civil aviation was transitioning from stunt/spectacle to travel/commerce; concern developed over the chaos that might ensue if the 48 states were allowed to set their own rules and standards. The legal precedent, as I recall, was that only sovereign nations could claim sovereignty over airspace.
It wasn’t all one-sided. Aircraft were supposed to be operated in a safe and prudent manner, and refrain from becoming a nuisance. This reciprocal arrangement began to degrade as the concept of common culture and behavior standards declined, and the population increased. The US population is now three times greater than it was in the 1920s; people are far more disagreeable and grumpy.
Private ownership took another hit in the 1950s, about the time the space race gained public attention. International agreement curtailed the claims of nations (some of which had already been voiced) to “the heavens” (that is, to an infinite altitude) above their territory. Someone pointed out that the earth spins on its axis once every 24 hours, so any nation of any size would eventually claim a sizable chunk of the universe. An upper limit of altitude for sovereign airspace was set.
“Typical rangefinders for hunting would suffice, and will be needed to calculate trajectory.”
Hunting rangefinders don’t have enough range.
And range measurement is only one part of the problem.
Other data must be collected (target speed/direction etc), and updates are needed at high rates. Predicting future target position, estimating trajectory (no mathematics exist to predict it fully), and generating gunlaying commands is the work of a computer. Back in the day, only the very best gunners were capable of doing it all manually, and they needed constant practice to keep their edge. They also needed machine guns.
A gun firing a projectile large enough to do enough damage at a realistic range will be rather large and powerful, hence none too portable and disagreeably costly. Not to mention heavily regulated today.
Rifle caliber machine guns (think 30-06 size) went obsolete in the 1930s for anti-air and air-to-air use; even were such items not mostly illegal today, few would want to pay for one (and its fodder).
Rockets can have the necessary range and power, but are no cheaper shot for shot, and suffer from nightmarishly poor accuracy. They would have to be launched in literal clouds to attain even a modest chance of hitting.
Adding a seeker, guidance system, and control surface to turn a rocket into a guided missile (Stinger or SA-7 type) would increase chances of a hit, but adds rather a lot to cost.
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