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The Conversation Holder Doesn't Really Want
Real Clear Politics ^ | July 19, 2013 | Mona Charen

Posted on 07/19/2013 9:32:44 AM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi

Eric Holder dismissed America as a "nation of cowards" because we wouldn't, he argued, have a "national conversation" about race. It's a slander wrapped in a farce. We talk of race unremittingly. That's the farce. The slander is hydra-headed.

No honest conversation about race is possible when accusations of racism replace reasoned arguments. Washington Post columnist Richard Cohen, who mentioned high rates of crime among black males, was rewarded with the racist label within minutes by some of those (The Atlantic, Slate) who presumably agree with Holder that we are too timid when discussing race.

Many American liberals are achingly nostalgic for old-fashioned racism. It offered them a helium high of moral superiority. It was deserved ... in 1967. But by perpetuating the fiction that modern America has not changed, they've become more than ridiculous, more even than grossly unjust, they've become dangerous. Look around you. The violence and bitterness that have followed the Zimmerman verdict were virtually ordered up by convicted slanderer Al Sharpton and his many imitators.

The Zimmerman case was complicated. Any fair-minded person could see that it was difficult to conclude that Zimmerman was not acting in self-defense (however unwise his initial actions may have been). But the racial-grievance industrial complex doesn't permit complexity. Racial enmity is their living. Stirring feelings of victimization and injustice among blacks and, to a lesser extent, among other designated minorities is their delight.

When you consider the steady agitprop churned out by the racial-grievance industrial complex, it's amazing that race relations aren't worse.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhodoj; charen; holder; race; racism

1 posted on 07/19/2013 9:32:44 AM PDT by NotYourAverageDhimmi
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Someone in my office told me that Holder has refused to allow Zimmerman to get his handgun returned to him. If this is true, I am amazed at this a-hole’s hubris. He has no authority of the State of Florida over who does and does not get to own a handgun.


2 posted on 07/19/2013 9:38:24 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Don't tell my mother that I'm an NFA dealer...She still thinks I own a chain of whore houses.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts



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3 posted on 07/19/2013 9:42:44 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts; NotYourAverageDhimmi
As I posted, earlier in the other thread on this article:

1. Does any rational person believe that Eric Holder does not understand that his actions, both before & after the Zimmerman acquittal, are actually aimed at obstructing justice--not furthering it? It is not justice to stir a lynch mob against an innocent man, for ulterior political purposes.

2. Does anyone not see how ludicrous it is for Holder & his Media enablers to identify the cause of American Negroes with the worst elements of their race, rather than those who actually live moral lives, pursuing worthy goals, and benefiting America in doing so? Is this whole gambit not an insult to millions of Black Americans, who are not out sucker punching neighborhood watch volunteers? (Think how absurd it would be if White leaders decided to no longer look to such role models as the Founding Fathers, and embraced instead demands for altering our culture, to put more efforts into explaining away the actions of the White criminal, while blaming his problems on those who live according to traditional principles.)

3. After "Fast & Furious," does the House of Representatives not see its duty in starting the process to remove Holder? Were they not already on notice that the Chief Legal Officer of the Federal Government is a "scoff-law," not a defender of justice? Is stirring up race riots in American cities, over a just verdict, in order to intimidate our people, not so clearly criminal as to mandate impeachment?

Does anybody dissent from this analysis?

William Flax

4 posted on 07/19/2013 9:50:36 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Holder would run, like the coward he is, if he could not control both ends of any conversation in which he might engage.


5 posted on 07/19/2013 9:51:50 AM PDT by YHAOS
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Holder’s not saying Zimmerman can’t own a handgun; he’s saying Zimmerman can’t own “that” handgun - he’s placing a “hold” on it as evidence for Zimmerman’s civil-rights-violation trial.

Small comfort.


6 posted on 07/19/2013 9:53:03 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

7 posted on 07/19/2013 9:53:53 AM PDT by JoeProBono (Mille vocibus imago valet;-{)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
Many American liberals are achingly nostalgic for old-fashioned racism. It offered them a helium high of moral superiority. It was deserved ... in 1967.

She has nailed it.

8 posted on 07/19/2013 9:54:00 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

Holder couldn’t handle an honest conversation about race. What he is really slithering around for is more race-baiting and white guilt peddling.


9 posted on 07/19/2013 9:54:08 AM PDT by pallis
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To: Ohioan

I dissent - you’re far too kind.


10 posted on 07/19/2013 9:54:12 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi

It is absolutely impossible to have an honest debate with any Progressive as you are debating with a person so dishonest that they hide their communist belief behind a nice wordsmithed word of Progressive.

6.5% of the USA population commits 50+% of all crimes.
Holder says that’s racist. I say its fact.

Blacks kill each other at a much higher rate than any other group kills blacks. Holder says that’s racist. I say is fact.

That’s the problem with debating liberal progressives even facts are racist as they cannot refute what you say so its the old race card.

Screw them all! We tried the great society, the war on poverty, early government school (stupid beyond belief), redistribution of wealth (government theft), Affirmative Action (government discrimination), set asides, different grading systems, different job application requirements and it still is not enough.

No need to discuss further as every discussion ends up with more government discrimination and oppression by the minority on the majority.


11 posted on 07/19/2013 10:04:07 AM PDT by Wurlitzer (Nothing says "ignorance" like Islam! 969)
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To: Ohioan

No dissent, but I feel the analysis is incomplete without mentioning Holder’s dimissal of the NBP’s federal race hate crime against white voters in Philadelphia during the ‘08 election.

Has a white AG ever dismissed federal charges against the KKK?


12 posted on 07/19/2013 10:04:42 AM PDT by MikeSteelBe (Austrian Hitler was, as the Halfrican Hitler does.)
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To: Wurlitzer
"nice wordsmithed word of Progressive"

Same for the word "conversation". That's not what he and Obama want. Lecturing and name-calling are not "conversations".

13 posted on 07/19/2013 10:08:43 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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To: NotYourAverageDhimmi
There is this notion that blacks aren't racist.. That it's everyone ELSE who's guilty of racism.

SURPRISE!!! Blacks are just as racist, if not MORE racist than any other single group of people. Their blind allegiance to Trayvon, without any regard for what REALLY happened in that case is case and point!

14 posted on 07/19/2013 10:11:34 AM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America (If Americans were as concerned for their country as Egyptians are, Obama would be ousted!)
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To: MikeSteelBe
You are quite right. There are doubtless a great many incidents that confirm the general point. Holder has regularly acted to obstruct justice, rather than to seek it. His Trial in the Senate, if the House were to act, would be very instructive, even if the Harry Reid's managed to save him from his just disserts.

William Flax

15 posted on 07/19/2013 10:21:52 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: DuncanWaring
"I dissent - you’re far too kind."

Just understand the power of understatement.

16 posted on 07/19/2013 10:25:56 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Yardstick
Many American liberals are achingly nostalgic for old-fashioned racism.

And why is that? They know that they are not on the high ground. They want to focus their attacks, once again, at the compassionate side of Americans to paralyze us with guilty feelings and thus submission.

17 posted on 07/19/2013 10:30:04 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator (The Lefties can drink Kool-Aid; I will drink Tea.)
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To: DuncanWaring
he’s saying Zimmerman can’t own “that” handgun - he’s placing a “hold” on it as evidence for Zimmerman’s civil-rights-violation trial.

I don't think he even has the authority to do that.

The handgun is not evidence in any trial whatsoever. No charge or tort has been filed for any civil rights violation. Gathering evidence before that happens violates the 4th amendment (yeah, I know, I know). The pistol can be returned to him under the authority of the State of Florida while they tell Holder to go p!$$ up a rope. If, in fact, anyone in the State house had any kind of balls.

18 posted on 07/19/2013 11:16:58 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Don't tell my mother that I'm an NFA dealer...She still thinks I own a chain of whore houses.)
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