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To: kimtom

I always heard the opposite. The reason the big bang could occur was because there was no existing universe to oppose it’s creation. Whether or not you think God was involved in that depends on your own religion I guess.

Nevertheless, there is nothing in the laws of thermo that contradict the big bang. Once a universe exists, within that universe, you can’t create something from nothing.


5 posted on 07/18/2013 10:45:18 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: fruser1

“..Once a universe exists, within that universe, ...”

yes, but that begs the question...

:)


11 posted on 07/18/2013 10:47:15 AM PDT by kimtom (USA ; Freedom is not Free)
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To: fruser1

>>>Once a universe exists, within that universe, you can’t create something from nothing.

In other words, once we grant that One Big Miracle occurred, then we can grant a non-miraculous, fully knowable, universe comprising matter and energy.

Got it.


36 posted on 07/18/2013 10:55:53 AM PDT by GoodDay
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To: fruser1
Given nothing, what is the probability of something?

The first law of thermodynamics says zero. So unless you are going to invent another physics you are going to have get around that zero.

155 posted on 07/19/2013 6:29:27 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been offically denied)
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