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To: JPG; All

So they are asking that for now we take this on....faith?

Like I said before, that which is to be confirmed must first be tested, and that which is tested must first be observed.

But how do you observe matter that is non-existent?


24 posted on 07/18/2013 10:51:43 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
No one is asking you to take fluctuations of the vacuum state on faith. They happen within your own body literally on the order of >1015 times every second. Their consequences are observable, and through quantum electrodynamics have been verified to higher orders of precision than virtually any scientific measure we have. They are real, material, and faith is not involved.
39 posted on 07/18/2013 10:57:07 AM PDT by FredZarguna (They Old School. We New School. We don't read cursive in New School. My Generation. We retahded, sir)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
In the end it does come down to faith. I believe that God and the universe(s) have always existed and will continue eternally. Can I “prove” that? Nope.
40 posted on 07/18/2013 10:57:48 AM PDT by JPG (Obama Does Egypt.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

“But how do you observe matter that is non-existent?”

In a particle collider.


49 posted on 07/18/2013 11:08:27 AM PDT by fruser1
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