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Why Zimmerman verdict might not roll back 'stand your ground' laws
The Christian Science Monitor ^ | July 17, 2013 | Patrik Jonsson

Posted on 07/17/2013 5:21:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

One legacy of the George Zimmerman not-guilty verdict in the death of Trayvon Martin may be to buttress the use of firearms in self-defense – a reinforcement that has US officials and others worried that expansive new self-defense laws in the states could become vehicles for people to express their personal prejudices with gun violence.

Attorney General Eric Holder raised the concern Tuesday during a speech to the NAACP, describing as "senseless" the self-defense doctrines that expand beyond defense of one's own home to self-protection in public places. Such laws allow “violent situations to escalate,” he charged.

Even Juror B37, whose descriptions of the jury's race-blind deliberations in the Zimmerman trial provoked a backlash among those who believe racial profiling was the heart of the matter, ultimately cited Florida's expansive self-defense law as the reason for the acquittal. Her prayers, she said, are with those “who have the influence and power to modify the laws that left me with no verdict option other than ‘not guilty’….”(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at csmonitor.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: b37; banglist; ericholder; obama; selfdefense; standyourground; trayvon; zimmerman
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1 posted on 07/17/2013 5:21:08 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

All I know is I have to read a lot of sick mindless crap and I don’t see the intelligent voices to stand up and guide this society.

What the hell are they talking about? repealing the right to self defense?

How would that help anyone? It’s senseless.


2 posted on 07/17/2013 5:26:37 PM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

People who think the verdict was wrong are DELUSIONAL.

Sadly, we are coddling their ignorance. I’m tired of it!!!


3 posted on 07/17/2013 5:33:00 PM PDT by BunnySlippers (I LOVE BULL MARKETS . . .)
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To: BunnySlippers

Bashing people’s beads into cement is not a civil right, regardless of what the loony left may say.

If I pick up a brick and charge someone and repeatedly smash their head with it, I can be shot and justifiably so. This case is no different except for the fact that St. Skittles to the head to the cement.


4 posted on 07/17/2013 5:35:45 PM PDT by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

All stand your ground laws do is codify a constitutional right that already exists in order to make it harder for a prosecutor to deny your right to self-defense.


5 posted on 07/17/2013 5:49:15 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Zimmerman didn’t claim stand your ground. He claimed simple self-defense.


6 posted on 07/17/2013 5:51:14 PM PDT by 0.E.O
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>> may be to buttress the use of firearms in self-defense

CRAP! Just when it seems like guns, magazines and ammo are starting to show up on the shelves again, so I can begin MY hoarding...

Oops, sorry, I mean, this is WONDERFUL! another force-pumping of guns, ammo and concealed carry permits out into the law abiding citizenry!


7 posted on 07/17/2013 5:52:10 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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...has US officials and others worried that expansive new self-defense laws in the states could become vehicles for people to express their personal prejudices with gun violence...

That would primarily be Eric Holder's people, which is why Eric Holder's people consider armed victims to be an OSHA violation.

8 posted on 07/17/2013 5:53:41 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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a reinforcement that has US officials and others worried that expansive new self-defense laws in the states could become vehicles for people to express their personal prejudices with gun violence.

Darkly hilarious. The expansive new self-defense law in Florida didn't come into play in the Zimmerman trial.

9 posted on 07/17/2013 6:06:05 PM PDT by dirtboy
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Stand Your Ground (SYG) allows a victim to use deadly force against the aggressor if the victim has a reasonable fear that the aggressor will either inflict serious bodily harm on the victim or kill the victim.

The alternative, followed by a minority of States, is the Duty to Retreat (DTR). DTR requires, in the above situation, for the victim to use a reasonable avenue of escape. Only if no such avenue is available may the victim use deadly force against the aggressor.

DTR puts the pressure on the victim. Even if the victim believes that he can not escape, a jury may determine that there was a reasonable avenue of escape and therefore convict the victim of (attempted) murder or (attempted) manslaughter.

SYG allows the victim to freely decide whether to fight or take flight, without being second-guessed by a jury. SYG respects the victim's right to life by leaving it to the victim to decide how best to defend that right.

10 posted on 07/17/2013 6:09:01 PM PDT by Repeal 16-17 (Let me know when the Shooting starts.)
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Self ping.


11 posted on 07/17/2013 6:14:19 PM PDT by Bodleian_Girl ("Progressive" is not a compliment folks....)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

For anyone NOT on the East Coast...

WATCH CNN at 9pm....Larry Elder vs Piers Morgan!

WOW! Way to go, Larry!


12 posted on 07/17/2013 6:14:25 PM PDT by toldyou (Even if the voices aren't real, they have some pretty good ideas.)
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Attorney General Eric Holder raised the concern Tuesday during a speech to the NAACP, describing as "senseless" the self-defense doctrines that expand beyond defense of one's own home to self-protection in public places.

The only thing "senseless" is feeling that you have the right to physically assault someone perceived to be "dissing" you, or who may connect your behavior with potential criminal activity.

13 posted on 07/17/2013 6:26:27 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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Crazy Ass Crackers Gone Wild!

14 posted on 07/17/2013 6:59:05 PM PDT by isthisnickcool (NO MORE IRS!)
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You spelled “cracka” wrong.


15 posted on 07/17/2013 7:49:30 PM PDT by kennyboy509 ( Ha! I kill me!!!)
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To: 0.E.O
Zimmerman didn’t claim stand your ground. He claimed simple self-defense.

A minor detail to the liberals. They're out to repeal the SYG laws and as usual, will pull any trick they think will work.

I've counted at least six newspapers so far that have pushed this meme, the CSM being the latest. The memo must have gone out this morning.

16 posted on 07/17/2013 7:58:31 PM PDT by Oatka (This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
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