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Debating the Zimmerman Verdict: Gawker's Tom Scocca vs Slate's Will Saletan
Slate's The Slatest ^ | July 16, 2013 | Josh Voorhees

Posted on 07/16/2013 5:52:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

In the red corner we have Gawker's Tom Scocca, who argues that regardless of the not-guilty verdict reached by a Florida jury this past weekend, George Zimmerman murdered Trayvon Martin. To believe otherwise, he wrote shortly before the trial ended, more or less makes you a racist:

"This is what the real dispute is: do you believe that a 17-year-old black person counts the same as any other human being? The local cops did not, which is why the case turned into a national scandal to begin with. George Zimmerman did not. Trayvon Martin was walking along, heading home from the store, and that was not enough. Turn the case around: a black teenager goes out carrying a gun, gets in a fight with a Neighborhood Watch volunteer, and shoots him, claiming self-defense. We would not even be discussing the case."

In the blue corner we have Slate's own Will Saletan, who concludes that the problem at the core of the case wasn't race or even guns. "The problem was assumption, misperception, and overreaction," Saletan wrote in a piece that was published last night. "And that cycle hasn’t ended with the verdict. It has escalated." He continued:

"I almost joined the frenzy. Yesterday I was going to write that Zimmerman pursued Martin against police instructions and illustrated the perils of racial profiling. But I hadn’t followed the case in detail. So I sat down and watched the closing arguments: nearly seven hours of video in which the prosecution and defense went point by point through the evidence as it had been hashed out at the trial. Based on what I learned from the videos, I did some further reading. It turned out I had been wrong about many things."(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at slate.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: blackrage; florida; georgezimmerman; joshvoorhees; racism; slate; trayvon; zimmerman

1 posted on 07/16/2013 5:52:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: All

His article:

You Are Not Trayvon Martin
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3043666/posts


2 posted on 07/16/2013 5:52:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind each blade of grass.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Apparently the last thing the left wants is for people to understand what really happened that night.


3 posted on 07/16/2013 6:00:01 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

People with nuanced points of view have a hard time winning Tweet wars.

I read Saletan’s piece this morning and to me it felt like the first intelligent thing I’ve seen in the wake of the verdict.

The Scocca guy is so full of hate and venom there’s not point in even attempting to converse with someone like that, left or right.


4 posted on 07/16/2013 6:00:03 PM PDT by babble-on
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
While these idiots ruminate on the significance of 'cracka' and what it means in the context of 400 years of institutionalized racism the rest of the country (outside of the inner city set) has written the whole affair off as a justifiable use of deadly force.

Tom & Will - may they become increasingly frustrated & confused.

5 posted on 07/16/2013 6:06:40 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

the only people on trayvon martin’s side in this are: blacks who hate whites, self loathing white nifong wannabees,and ignorant morons who have no idea what the facts of the case were.


6 posted on 07/16/2013 6:10:31 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (EVERYTHING IS RACISM!!! (except hating whitey))
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To: BenLurkin

“Apparently the last thing the left wants is for people to understand what really happened that night.”

They don’t want people to understand what happened that night or what is going on every night and day in America and why it has become necessary for Americans to protect and defend our families, homes, property, neighbors and communities. Those in control of our government want civil disobediance and racial strife. Divide and conquer. On our way to the communist utopia.


7 posted on 07/16/2013 6:13:11 PM PDT by duffee (NO poll tax, NO tax on firearms, ammunition or gun safes. NO gun free zones.)
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The only reason you would consider the Zimmerman acquittal to be racist would be because you believe that violent crime is a legitimate career choice for Eric Holder’s people, and armed victims are an OSHA violation.


8 posted on 07/16/2013 6:14:35 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: BenLurkin

Facts just don’t fit the liberal narrative.


9 posted on 07/16/2013 6:20:52 PM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (To stay calm during these tumultuous times, I take Damitol. Ask your Doctor if it's right for you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If race had anything to do with it DOJ would have charged by now.


10 posted on 07/16/2013 6:23:20 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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I can never understand how it is that the further we move away from the history of segregation et al (in years and in deeds) the more the appetite seems to grow among many blacks to seek revenge for it.


11 posted on 07/16/2013 7:18:48 PM PDT by Cubs Fan (EVERYTHING IS RACISM!!! except hating whitey)
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Really?

12 posted on 07/16/2013 7:21:15 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind each blade of grass.)
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13 posted on 07/16/2013 7:52:16 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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Uhhh, what is zero, Alex?


14 posted on 07/16/2013 7:53:38 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind each blade of grass.)
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We have a winner!


15 posted on 07/16/2013 7:54:48 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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Mere coincidence.


16 posted on 07/16/2013 7:56:07 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can't invade the mainland US There'd be a rifle behind each blade of grass.)
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But I hadn’t followed the case in detail.

At least the Slate writer did something about this. If more people followed such things in detail, rather than be spun into a frenzy over half-truths, misinformation and bald-faced lies, this world would be a saner place.

17 posted on 07/16/2013 9:35:50 PM PDT by newzjunkey (bah)
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