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1 posted on 07/16/2013 3:28:02 PM PDT by Red Steel
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I hate these people. They are evil.


2 posted on 07/16/2013 3:29:32 PM PDT by ilgipper (Obama is proving that very bad ideas can be wrapped up in pretty words)
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The State Run Media already had their Talking Points from the DNC BEFORE Holder read them.

Gun Control, still, is their number one target to un-arm the un-ruly Constitution-loving Americans. Da Hood and the Illegals, not so much......

3 posted on 07/16/2013 3:31:05 PM PDT by traditional1 (Amerika.....Providing public housing for the Mulatto Messiah)
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Escalating violence justifies “Stand your Ground” laws.

Escalating violence justifies Neighborhood Watch organizations.

Escalating violence justifies carrying a piece when you are outside your home.

Holder just gave the game away. You notice that “Stand your Ground” had nothing to do with this case, but O’s minions keep bringing it up over and over and over. They are using this poor kid to beat a political drum. No one, except probably us, cares that yet another kid was killed by thug culture.


4 posted on 07/16/2013 3:32:47 PM PDT by marron
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Laws like "Stand Your Ground" undermine innocent Americans' safety "by allowing - and perhaps encouraging - violent situations to escalate in public," Attorney General Eric Holder said Tuesday afternoon,..

Laws like "Stand Your Ground" allows us, the law abiding public, to defend ourselves against feral black youths who try to attack us.

6 posted on 07/16/2013 3:33:32 PM PDT by WesternPacific (The herded sheep have finally arrived at the slaughter house.)
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Actually, when you think about it, GZ stopped the escalation of a violent situation.


7 posted on 07/16/2013 3:34:08 PM PDT by Arm_Bears (Refuse; Resist; Rebel; Revolt!)
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God forbid, folks should defend themselves. Street thugs prefer their victims be unarmed.


8 posted on 07/16/2013 3:34:45 PM PDT by firebasecody (Orthodoxy, proclaiming the Truth since AD 33)
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"Encourages violence". What a maroon!!

Stand Your Ground only means defending yourself against violence that is directed at you. I guess that is just too much to comprehend for our "esteemed AG".....

9 posted on 07/16/2013 3:35:23 PM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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“One bleeding-heart type asked me in a recent interview if I did not agree that ‘violence begets violence.’ I told him that it is my earnest endeavor to see that it does. I would like very much to ensure — and in some cases I have — that any man who offers violence to his fellow citizen begets a whole lot more in return than he can enjoy.”
- Jeff Cooper


10 posted on 07/16/2013 3:36:23 PM PDT by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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As does inciting race riots against people who are prepared for them.


11 posted on 07/16/2013 3:36:46 PM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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Stand your ground laws allow damaged breeders to be removed from the gene pool.


12 posted on 07/16/2013 3:37:24 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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More distracting nonsense from a liberal attorney and activist. Attorney General he may be, for the moment, but legislator he is NOT.

The stats, evidence and logic point to the direct opposite conclusion. He knows it, but his purpose is cryptic, or plain dishonest, many believe purely for the purpose of distracting everyone from issues requiring critical thinking skills.

This lecture is designed to run out the news cycle clock and, like so much that comes down from this administration's Delphic Oracle, attacks critical thinking itself, doubling and perhaps tripling (or much more) it's power to distract.

13 posted on 07/16/2013 3:37:36 PM PDT by Prospero (Si Deus trucido mihi, ego etiam fides Deus.)
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Someone somewhere must be handing out law degress to anyone these days. These people are effing stupid. I want nothing more to do with them. Let’s roll!


14 posted on 07/16/2013 3:40:15 PM PDT by The Toll
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FUEH.


15 posted on 07/16/2013 3:40:34 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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Holder has issued a fatwa on Zimmerman


16 posted on 07/16/2013 3:40:52 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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Americans at the time of the Founding would have stood their ground against the likes of Eric the Red. That man personifies racism, totalitarianism and corruption. Eric Holder is despicable.


17 posted on 07/16/2013 3:41:08 PM PDT by VR-21 (I'm weary of being lorded over by criminals and gilded degenerates.)
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18 posted on 07/16/2013 3:41:21 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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OMG, defending yourself might lead to more violence. Damn that Constitution! /s

Here’s an idea for the left wing morons - stop the crime and I won’t have to defend myself.

Oh, wait, I forget the left’s response (most of my family are left wing moonbats): don’t go there; don’t visit that area; don’t use those roads!


19 posted on 07/16/2013 3:43:10 PM PDT by Fledermaus (Note to the NSA: I approved this dissention. What are you going to do about it Punks?)
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Stand your ground laws really do not give any one the right to self protection that he has always had.

The idea that one can zap the UPS man on the front porch just because he has been told to leave the package at the gate is nonsense, as stupid as my example.

What stand your ground laws really do is put restrictions on over zealous overly ambitious do anything for publicity prosecutors.

In other words, the stand your ground law’s purpose is to protect the person who has to defend himself.

A person defending himself still must be able to show that he feared for his life and had to resort to force to save his own life or the life of others.


20 posted on 07/16/2013 3:44:05 PM PDT by old curmudgeon
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A federal DOJ that allows Black Panthers to intimidate voters by standing in front of poling places with nightsticks “encourages escalating violence”. A DOJ that is lawless encourages escalating violence. A DOJ that is corrupt encourages escalating violence.

I get the impression that some types of “escalating violence” is actually viewed as useful for advancing The Agenda of the people at the top of the DOJ.

I heartily recommend that everyone read Chapter 10 of F.A. Hayek’s wonderful book, The Road to Serfdom.

Hayek Was Right: The Worst Do Get to the Top
FEBRUARY 01, 1998 by LAWRENCE W. REED

In spite of freedom’s remarkable, global progress in recent years—from the collapse of the Soviet empire to the growth of “privatization”—there is no sign yet of a shortage of statists with silly and destructive schemes. The best explanation of why and how such people get into positions of power is still found in “Why the Worst Get on Top,” which is chapter ten of F. A. Hayek’s masterpiece, The Road to Serfdom.

When Hayek wrote his best-known book in 1944, the world was captivated by the notion of socialist central planning. While almost everyone in Europe and America decried the brutality of nazism, fascism, and communism, public opinion was being shaped and molded by an intelligentsia which held that these “excesses” of socialism were avoidable exceptions. If only we make sure the right people are in charge, said the statist intellectuals, the iron fist will dissolve into a velvet glove.

Those who, in Hayek’s words, “think that it is not the system which we need fear, but the danger that it might be run by bad men,” are naïve utopians who will forever be disappointed by the socialist outcome. Indeed, this is the history of twentieth-century statism—the endless search for a place where the dream might actually be made to work, settling on a spot until disaster is embarrassingly apparent to all, then blaming persons rather than the system and flitting off to the next inevitable disappointment. Perhaps someday, the dictionary definition of “statist” may read, “Someone who learns nothing from human nature, economics, or experience, and repeats the same mistakes over and over again without a care for the rights and lives of people he crushes with his good intentions.”

Even the worst features of the statist reality, Hayek showed, “are not accidental byproducts” but phenomena that are part and parcel of statism itself. He argued with great insightfulness that “the unscrupulous and uninhibited are likely to be more successful” in any society in which government is seen as the answer to most problems. They are precisely the kind of people who elevate power over persuasion, force over cooperation. Government, possessing by definition a legal and political monopoly of the use of force, attracts them just as surely as dung draws flies. Ultimately, it is the apparatus of government that allows them to wreak their havoc on the rest of us.

Hardly a day goes by that, a half-century after Hayek wrote, the newspapers fail to provide new examples of the worst getting to the top.

...

http://www.fee.org/the_freeman/detail/hayek-was-right-the-worst-do-get-to-the-top/#axzz2IcdUF6vD


21 posted on 07/16/2013 3:48:19 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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Obama, Holder and their people could not be more wrong. SYG ends violence. Law abiding citizens are able to stop violence with SYG. If left unchecked, Obama’s people will continue to be violent. SYG stops violent people dead in their tracks and they are never able to be violent again. It is whole lot cheaper than the revolving doors of our country club prisons that allow criminals to be better criminals.


23 posted on 07/16/2013 3:53:41 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA (Molon Labe - shall not be questioned)
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