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1 posted on 07/15/2013 5:33:57 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

From what I’m reading here I wouldn’t vote to convict.


2 posted on 07/15/2013 5:36:11 PM PDT by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: neverdem

Probably because the same dim bulb prosecuted both of them. Namely, Angela Corey.

Secondly, one of the charges she faced was endangering her children who were in the next room when she fired into the wall.


3 posted on 07/15/2013 5:37:04 PM PDT by the808bass
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To: neverdem

Because, as I understand it, she went outside to her car to get the gun before returning inside the house. Once she left the scene of the altercation, she could not re-enter and still claim STG/self-defense. That’s why she was convicted.


4 posted on 07/15/2013 5:37:10 PM PDT by GreatOne (You will bow down before me, Son of Jor-el!)
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To: neverdem

If this is the case I’m thinking of, she left the house where the guy was, went to her car to get a gun, and went back into the house to confront him. No way was it SYG. And it was light years different than the Zimmerman/Martin incident.


7 posted on 07/15/2013 5:38:45 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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Legally there are no such things as warning shots. Any shot fired during a confrontation is an attempted use of deadly force. Next question: Did she have a reasonable fear of death or great bodily harm, which is the threshold for self-defense in Florida? No facts here to tell.


8 posted on 07/15/2013 5:39:03 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo ( Walker 2016)
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Marissa Alexander's husband says it was her violent nature that led to shooting

The husband of Marissa Alexander said Wednesday it was her violent nature, not his, that ultimately landed her 20 years in prison.

"I never put my hands on Marissa Alexander," said 36-year-old Rico Gray, accompanied by his 12-year-old son when he spoke with the media Wednesday at the State Attorney's Office in Jacksonville.

Gray said he put his hands up in defense "buying time" for his two sons to gather their belongings so he could take them and leave. But when he made the remark that their newborn baby must be fathered by her ex-husband, he said she immediately stopped.

"She said, 'I got something for your — —,' and walked away," Gray said. "I knew exactly what she was going to do."

Gray said she went to the garage, to her truck, to get her gun and then returned back inside the home. He said the garage door that she claimed was inoperable worked for him earlier that morning and later that day with no trouble.

"When she came back inside, the first thing I saw was her putting one [a bullet] in the chamber," he said.

10 posted on 07/15/2013 5:39:27 PM PDT by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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Why did it happen to Ronald Thompson?

Unlike for Marissa Alexander, there have been no public rallies or elected officials protesting Ronald Thompson being sentenced to 20 years in prison for firing what could be described as a warning shot.

Thompson is a fully disabled Army veteran of 14 years with, among other ailments, diabetes, heart disease and severe vision problems.

http://jacksonville.com/news/crime/2012-06-20/story/clay-county-65-year-old-gets-20-years-10-20-life-controversy


11 posted on 07/15/2013 5:40:47 PM PDT by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: neverdem

This is a bogus portrayal.

She left and got her gun and then fired the “warning shot” into the wall behind her husband and children- at head height.

I’n surprised even our media would be so blatantly dishonest. Usually they have some facts to push “the agenda” with, something to hang it on.
Here, it’s just agenda with no cover.


13 posted on 07/15/2013 5:41:48 PM PDT by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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Since both of them were in their own home, stand your ground wouldn’t apply here. Heck yeah, she was angry and trying to scare him in front of the kids. What if the bullet had ricocheted and hit one of the children? She should have left until she calmed down. She’s lucky she wasn’t also charged with endangering the life of a child.


14 posted on 07/15/2013 5:42:05 PM PDT by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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What MSNBC left out the fact that she fired a gun after she started the fight. Stand your ground doesn't apply. Don't you love it when you catch a Liberal/progressive liar...

Prosecutor Nick Lake said following the hearing, "The jury decided she was not in fear when she fired the gun. She went back to his house, alone, and committed a domestic battery on him (ex-husband).

Marissa Alexander's Retrial Motion Denied


17 posted on 07/15/2013 5:46:01 PM PDT by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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If you bother to actually peruse the facts she went out to her car, got her gun and came back in to "stand her ground."

That ain't SYG. That's premeditated assault.

26 posted on 07/15/2013 5:55:52 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: neverdem

She had a restraint order against her husband yet went to his residence and started a fight. Big difference in the two cases.


29 posted on 07/15/2013 6:01:30 PM PDT by DainBramage
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That’s a local story for me.

1. Not the same thing as Zimmerman at all. She went outside, got the gun, and then came back. That is by definition NOT stand your ground material.

2. She’s stupid with priors. I think she was baby momma #6 for the male idiot involved. Stupid never helps, and priors most certainly don’t.

3. She was overcharged by the same moronic prosecutor that went after Zimmerman. Hardly any of the same FReepers who would have shot Trayvon if in Zimmerman’s shoes, would have given this woman anything more than a slap on the wrist.

4. I think she had a public defender and unfortunately, money matters in our criminal justice system.


31 posted on 07/15/2013 6:11:47 PM PDT by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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So, is taking your wife, female s/o to the range and encouraging her to get a CCW a good idea?


32 posted on 07/15/2013 6:13:12 PM PDT by Paladin2
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Was it black-on-black crime?

I hear that goes around sometimes. /sarc

34 posted on 07/15/2013 6:18:54 PM PDT by hummingbird (THE LIBERTY AMENDMENTS by Mark Levin. He has a great plan!)
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This case is a lie through omission of critical facts.

1. The woman had TRO out against her ex-husband.
2. She went to her ex-husbands house, found him there with the children.
3. An argument ensued.
4. The woman went out to her car, retrieved her weapon and came back and continued the argument.
5. She fired the so-called warning shots.

So, she violated her own TRO by either knowingly going to her Ex-Husbands house while he was there, or not leaving immediately when discovering he was there. She participated in an argument with him, then left the perceived danger to fetch a pistol, then came back and shot in his direction.

That’s not stand your ground nor self defense, that’s attempted murder. Even so, I do not agree with the mandatory sentencing, but this women was hardly innocent.


37 posted on 07/15/2013 6:29:03 PM PDT by Usagi_yo
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Angela Corey, who oversaw the prosecution of Zimmerman, also tried the case against Alexander, and defended the sentencing at the time.

The answer was further down in the article.

Child Murder Suspect Cristian Fernandez's Case Sparks Outrage Read more: http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2011/10/19/child-murder-suspect-cristian-fernandezs-case-sparks-outrage/#ixzz2ZAWKX1BB

Zimmerman prosecutor under fire (video 4:20)

Angela Corey has a history of vindictive prosecutions. I am for strong punishment but Corey seems to have a big sadistic streak in her.

38 posted on 07/15/2013 6:46:40 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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Maybe because the media is lying:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/89763383/States-Motion-in-Opposition-of-Defendants-Motion-for-Immunity


39 posted on 07/15/2013 6:47:11 PM PDT by bolobaby
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Rev. Al was going on about this, I don’t tune the show in, sometimes at work, we have multiple TVs going on in the lounge. I’ll take a peek at it.


42 posted on 07/15/2013 6:49:26 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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I really though Z was going to get convicted of something, because, even though it was not a ‘lawful’ order, the dispatcher did say ‘no need to follow TM’.
As ‘liberated’ as we are in VA the law can be interpreted that if you are carrying (LEGAL OR NOT) you are basically required to avoid ANY confrontation.
Say in a ‘road rage’ type of thing that you cut someone off, then flip them the bird and become confrontational, when the other guy is ‘whuppin your butt’, it isn’t (may not always be) self defense if you shoot him as you STARTED the altercation.

‘They’ recently charged someone with brandishing in VA because (HIS CLAIM) he was taking his gun from his glove compartment and putting it in his console (or vice verse) and a school bus driver claimed he BRANDISHED the weapon at her. 2 days later they arrested him.


46 posted on 07/15/2013 7:14:58 PM PDT by xrmusn (6/98 --Inside every 'older' man there is a 'younger' man wondering "WTF happened")
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