Posted on 07/13/2013 6:07:06 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
I think the jury is taking its own sweet time, so they get this thing RIGHT! I also think that many in this world have become so used to CSI etc, that they think a trial etc needs to be completed in 60 minutes. PATIENCE, people, patience!
I also think that some arsekicking is going to happen regardless what the verdict is.
That's an almost permanent scroller with FOX anymore....
Nope, no verdict..they have been doing that scroll all day..if a jury takes a potty break they would have that as breaking news too
there is no discretion if the defense asks it. ONLY if the prosecution requests it, and then on after hearing.
I have a feeling that one or more of the jurors are afraid to render a verdict. I think its a hung jury.
Just look for Drudge’s Flashing Gumball machine on verdict!
Manslaughter is a lesser included offense of 2nd Degree Murder. In other words, the same elements needed to find someone guilty of Manslaughter are very similar to those of 2nd Degree Murder (the homicide charge requiring intent, whereas manslaughter involves recklessness). It is very common. That’s why defense attorney West went nuts when the State tried to include 3rd Degree Murder - homicide while committing child abuse. Those elements are completely different than the elements of 2nd Degree Murder, and the case was never about that. Defense attorneys are presumed to be aware of lesser included offenses, and 90% of the time it is they who call for it, in the hopes of getting their clients a lesser conviction.
I think it is judicial discretion with regards to it as well. It can be excluded by the judge.
But I think the blindside had more to do with the 3rd degree child abuse charge that the court was considering but then rejected.
As much as it pisses me off. I believe there is no way zimmerman leaves that jail or courtroom. Obama and his minions have invested too much and I believe they have their thumb on this judge and told her do not let that jury come out of deliberations without a guilty verdict of some kind. I have said from day one of this trial zimmerman doesn’t have a chance of a not guilty verdict. Especially with the scum of our society threatening riots before the jury was even seated or picked. Unfortunately I believe he’s doomed. Hope I’m wrong but I know I’m right.
I wonder if they are overthinking this. It is interesting that they have not asked for any reading of testimony.
Jury consultant on CNN just said the women jurors will be swayed by that “good looking” midget Guy. Now if she had said men jurors would have been swayed by a good looking blonde headed woman, that would have been sexist.
Bummer...thanks....boob tube off, heading out for Graffiti Night Cruz’n!
The State, in its close, took the position (do you agree with this, Governor Scott) that legal CCW = intent.
THAT is what this case is really all about.
FNC just said ‘any minute’
If that is all it takes to get a conviction in this country(By having a prosecutor look good looking) our justice system is screwed anyway..it is the job of the jurors to look at the evidence, not if the prosecutor is “hot”
Drudge needs an app that just displays the red light alert and nothing else whenever he posts it to his website.
Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV 5m
We were told the alternates who’ve been excused can’t talk until the verdict is in by court administrators. #Zimmermanon9
Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV 7m
The jury was not told about the possible sentences #Zimmermanon9 could face and they are not to consider it if they know. #Zimmermanon9
Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV 10m
The judge will decide after the verdict is in how long jurors names will be secret. Some were concerned about that. #Zimmermanon9
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Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV 14m
The judge says she will let the jury decide how late to work and when to take breaks. No limit unless they’re hung. #Zimmermanon9
“People wearing those shirts should be told to leave.”
That is the most succinct and common sense statement I have heard.....obvious and brilliant.
Had a white person been wearing a similar t-shirt with Trayvon’s picture on it, it would have caused apoplexy in the media and the Federal Just-Us department would be rushing hate crimes charges immediately. Riots would have already ensued, and the wearer would be dead by now. The press would have Dan Quale’d this to the point of looping the video at the bottom of every TV show...even during commercials.
.....sigh.
Which is why Judge Nelson wanted to include “child abuse” since Trayvon was under 18.
I think that’s wrong.
Thx for the response...I was confused about that whole issue!
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