No, I have never served. I thought about but could not get past the idea of subverting my own identity to (maybe, blindly) following orders. But, in my job, I work with many (prob. 90% here) retired from all the branches.
‘Men would be punished’?? I may have missed where I said anything of the sort; if you can point it out again...As to there being an agenda; sure, I recognize there is one in some areas of their community. As much as the blacks have theirs, we here have our own, etc. Not saying that makes them all exclusive of one another either...just that we ALL have agendas, and not all in the same camp think the same.
I care not what the Founders ‘wanted’. What I DO care about is the verbiage/ideals in the Constitution; as it is a contract of governance SETTLED upon (even they could not come to 100% agreement amongst themselves) by some of the greatest minds of all time. Which person would you presume I point to for introspection? The Federalist? The slave owner? The adulterer? They all, as Men, have their problems...
As to your final, I believe you should READ my posting instead of spouting your conjecture upon my thought process. I am always up for a tussled debate, but I have posted my last ‘here’s my beliefs/why’ just prior to continue beating a dead horse.
you never served, OK, so you have no frigging idea then how it works.
As for you not caring what the fathers wanted and you thinking we don’t get our rights based form the constitution, like oh 2nd amendment, yes it goes ot court and we have that, freedom of religion, speech, and for you keep harping about slavery , well it’s no different than debating or arguing with a full blown far left liberal as that is what they always say.
oh and as for Govt in marriage, well it make comes as shock but they have been involved for hundreds of years in this country, people who are not religious get married or do you say that they should not marry because they’re not religious and how about those with different religions?
Your bumper sticker slogans of no Govt sounds great but in the real world not real.