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Day 24 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Final Day – Probably a Verdict before dinner [No, Jury Adjourned]
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 12, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/12/2013 4:52:55 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 12th, is DAY #24 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday the prosecution provide closing arguments (Summary: http://legalinsurrection.com/2013/07/states-closing-argument-two-hours-of-raising-doubt).

Today the defense attorney, Mark O’Mara will present his closing argument. Then the prosecution rebuttal.

(Excerpt) Read more at theconservativetreehouse.com ...


TOPICS: Breaking News; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: finalday; livezimmermantrial; trayvon; trayvonmartin; verdict; zimmerman
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To: presently no screen name
You may have zeroed in on why the jurors requested the evidence list: "One thing, also, the jurist has to live with their decision and if they find out some pertinent info afterwards, it will affect them."

Perhaps they want to acquit but want to be absolutely sure the idiot prosecution didn't miss something that would damn George. If they acquit and then some piece of evidence gets highlighted that proves the guilty verdict, then the jurors would be hard pressed to live with that failure to convict.

The kangaroo court did such a bad job that the jurors can't even find a shred to convict on!

3,301 posted on 07/12/2013 8:56:41 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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The New Black Panther Party protested in front of Seminole County Courthouse along with several other groups on Friday as the six-person jury began deliberating Zimmerman’s fate. He can be convicted of either second-degree murder or manslaughter for the shooting death of Martin.

Brother James Muhammad also spoke to The Daily Caller saying “we’re not advocating any acts of violence against anyone in prison or out of prison.” But he added that there’s “always that possibility” that a “child killer” would face that fate of death behind bars.

“Muhammad told the Daily Caller that he’d been invited to multiple protests by the Martin family and their family attorney Benjamin Crump. The group had associations with other civil rights leaders including Al Sharpton and his brother Kenneth Glasgow. “We came, and we supported,” said Muhammad of their visits to Sanford last year.

Kayrallah is part of the NBPP faction out of Jacksonville who issued a citizen’s arrest order and placed a $10,000 bounty on George Zimmerman’s head — “dead or alive” — last year before his arrest.”

http://dailycaller.com/2013/07/12/new-black-panther-hopes-zimmerman-is-killed-in-prison-video/#ixzz2YtMjfuxu

Muhammad told the Daily Caller that he’d been invited to multiple protests by the Martin family and their family attorney Benjamin Crump.

Just as Ben Crump claimed he knew nuttin bout nuttin, he will claim that he is not behind any violence that occurs.


3,302 posted on 07/12/2013 9:00:11 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Nita Nupress

A small .22lr derringer loaded with snake shot, 5 rounds. I keep one in the pocket when mowing. We have copperheads around here and I have lots of ‘decorative’ boulders. North American Arms has one with a grip that folds over the gun so it fits nicely in the pocket and clips to the flap.


3,303 posted on 07/12/2013 9:00:32 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: viaveritasvita; Recovering Ex-hippie

Please, people, you’re doing exactly what Obama wants to happen...the fracturing of America.

I honestly don’t think that most black people (outside of those who are “professionally black,” that is, the grievance pros) are that fond of low-lifes like Trayvon Martin and his circle of friends and his entire family. Many black people probably have family members like him, unfortunately, so they may be a little defensive. But they surely won’t be out in the streets supporting him.

All of this rioting stuff has been hyped by the media, by the “race professionals” and by the Dems, including the evil creature in the WH. And while I hate to say it, I think there are some people here on FR who are actually hoping it will happen.

Don’t let any of thse people get you down.


3,304 posted on 07/12/2013 9:00:43 PM PDT by livius
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To: toldyou

Good catch. Sick, though. I have no pity for thugs.


3,305 posted on 07/12/2013 9:01:00 PM PDT by madison10
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To: presently no screen name
Anyone that's been on a trial will agree with you there. One thing, also, the jurist has to live with their decision and if they find out some pertinent info afterwards, it will affect them. More so, a murder trial.

I wonder what would happen if jurors were allowed to make open-ended statements for the record, which could be taken into account by appeals-court judges, and if defense attorneys could ask jurors to answer a few questions after rendering a verdict, with the answers recorded on the record. I frequently read of appeals-court cases where a court ruled that a trial court judge erred in keeping out some piece of evidence, but that it probably wouldn't have affected the jury. Such a claim would be far less tenable if a defense attorney could asked the jury after trial, on the record, "If you'd known XX, would you likely have decided differently?"

I'd also like to see a proviso by which a jury could recommend a maximum sentence or sentencing range; if the juror's maximum sentence was below the statutory minimum, the prosecutor could accept it (in which case the crime would be regarded as one for which the maximum sentence would be deemed to be what the jury stated) or send the case back to a jury. If the jury finds that anything over 3 months of jail would constitute cruel and unusual punishment for some particular act, there would be no legitimate basis for any sentence beyond three months, nor for regarding the crime as a felony. If a prosecutor is unwilling to accept a three month sentence, jurors would then decide whether they could believe that a longer sentence would not be cruel and unusual; if not, they would be forced to acquit outright.

I wish more people would recognize that the reason juries are not allowed to know what sentences are associated with various crimes is that such such information would cause them to uphold the Constitution by refusing to saddled people with with cruel and unusual punishments.

3,306 posted on 07/12/2013 9:01:16 PM PDT by supercat (Renounce Covetousness.)
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To: XenaLee; Darren McCarty

“Don’t you wish we had an edit feature here? I can’t count how many times I’ve wished it for some of my posts...lol.”

Ah, but we DO have an edit feature: “Admin Moderator” ;-)


3,307 posted on 07/12/2013 9:03:13 PM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: toldyou
The evidence proves otherwise and the writer is typical of magic thinking purveyors. Tell the lie like a scene in the reader's head. Weak minds will gobble it up to feed their hatred of the 'other'.

Note that the writer is pretty good at the scam ... worthy of the little barry bastard queerboy regime membership.

3,308 posted on 07/12/2013 9:05:22 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Nita Nupress

Yeah, the Judge is good for shooting rattlesnakes and other such varmits. Never (yet) had to shoot one, but as dry as it’s been, I expect they’ll be migrating into the neighborhoods looking for water.

And it’s too big to carry in a pocket, but you could just strap it on while in your own yard. Unless some idiot anti-gun neighbor wanted to complain. But it is perfectly legal. At least, that’s what I was told while in Houston.


3,309 posted on 07/12/2013 9:05:54 PM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: toldyou

We ought to rewrite this from the FReeper/truth POV!

Imagine you are on your way to Target...


3,310 posted on 07/12/2013 9:07:41 PM PDT by viaveritasvita (The Grace of God has appeared, bringing Salvation to all men. Titus 2:11)
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

“Ah, but we DO have an edit feature: “Admin Moderator” ;-)”

You jest, but if I bothered (or if we bothered) the Admin Moderator every time we wanted to “edit” some typo or error in our posts that we didn’t catch, we’d be zotted faster than the usual trolls are....lol.


3,311 posted on 07/12/2013 9:08:27 PM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

Good for her. It’s time for LOTS of comments from around that community like hers and around the country to break the fear factor the ‘race card’ has been trying to play.


3,312 posted on 07/12/2013 9:10:24 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: livius; Recovering Ex-hippie

I hear ya liv, I really do. I could have written your post myself 15 - 20 yrs ago, but...

>>>>...you’re doing exactly what Obama wants to happen...the fracturing of America...Don’t let any of thse people get you down.<<<<

Opps, too late. Sad sad sad


3,313 posted on 07/12/2013 9:13:07 PM PDT by viaveritasvita (The Grace of God has appeared, bringing Salvation to all men. Titus 2:11)
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To: XenaLee
"we’d be zotted faster than the usual trolls are....lol."


3,314 posted on 07/12/2013 9:13:33 PM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (Learn three chords and you, too, can be a Rock Star!)
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To: viaveritasvita

Imagination is a wonderful thing, ain’t it! The morons on the left take it to a whole new level and make it into an art form.

But you have a good idea there. We could have a contest on who writes (or rewrites) the best fantasy scenario from the “We Are All George” Freeper perspective.


3,315 posted on 07/12/2013 9:14:58 PM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: livius
Please, people, you’re doing exactly what Obama wants to happen...the fracturing of America.

Yep, pure evil... They just never counted on the amount of GOOD still in America!

3,316 posted on 07/12/2013 9:16:05 PM PDT by Errant
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To: spel_grammer_an_punct_polise

But...but...but.....

I was quite serious.

[grin]


3,317 posted on 07/12/2013 9:16:18 PM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: Pilgrim's Progress
I’m thinking white folks might want to stay away from sidewalks . . . or anything made of concrete . . . for a few days.

I'm thinking it's time white people get their edge back and stop being pu##ies.

"But the Holders and this and that?"
Screw em. I go where I please, and when I please. If I have to defend myself, I will. If not, I don't. If jumped, I'll take care of the situation. No cops or politicians involved.

3,318 posted on 07/12/2013 9:20:04 PM PDT by Darren McCarty (Abortion - legalized murder for convenience)
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To: ping jockey
bull crap on verdict before dinner.

Tough, cook it yourself.

12 women can’t agree on the time of day.

Seems like a man hasn't keep up on the facts so how could he expect to make a right decision. Typical. Shooting off the mouth before obtaining common info.

3,319 posted on 07/12/2013 9:20:08 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: MHGinTN

I think the keeping of TM’s character intact comment was a “making lemonade” type of statement, myself. He had no choice, and to publicly decry the obvious bias wouldn’t have helped the situation. JMO, natch!


3,320 posted on 07/12/2013 9:20:35 PM PDT by MortMan (Disarming the sheep only emboldens the wolves.)
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