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So Who Exactly is Stronger Than Rick Perry in 2016?
Townhall.com ^ | July 12, 2013 | Mark Davis

Posted on 07/12/2013 1:16:10 AM PDT by Kaslin

If you’re wondering whether my Governor is going to try to become our President, I have no magic window to that, even though I have known him for nearly twenty tears.

But from here in Texas, where all kinds of political plotlines are getting attention, there are some insights I can share as Rick Perry plans a return to private life that may be only momentary.

First, let’s get rid of the dumbest analysis of the past week-- the notion that Perry is not seeking re-election because he feared a loss to pro-choice rock starlet Wendy Davis.

Senator Davis may run, and why not? She is probably the Democrats’ strongest candidate for 2014. But amid all the buzz about Texas shifting from red to purple, be aware that we are nowhere close to electing a Democrat Governor.

If state Attorney General Greg Abbott serves as Perry’s successor, he would be a strong incumbent seeking re-election in 2018, so that’s not exactly a door the Texas Dems can walk through either. So we’re a good decade away from any notion of a Democrat in the Governor’s mansion in Austin.

So will Perry seek another mansion to move into in January 2017, the one being vacated at last by the Obamas?

It would not surprise me. But nor would a decision to stay in private life, to write books or just enjoy his family, including a granddaughter born just a couple of weeks ago. It’s easy to forget because he looks years younger, but President Perry would turn 70 at the end of his first term in the White House. He would, in fact, be the third oldest man ever inaugurated, behind Ronald Reagan and William Henry Harrison, and just a week ahead of James Buchanan.

But let’s not obsess. No one is talking about Hillary Clinton’s age as a factor, and she has more than two years on Perry.

The 2016 GOP primary race may have a young-folks feel to it, though. In a field that may contain Senator Marco Rubio (currently 42), Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker (45) and Louisiana Governor Bobby Jindal (42), Rand Paul and Chris Christie look like grizzled veterans at 50.

But let’s sift through those names while asking a question about Perry’s chances. If you find yourself underestimating him because of the “oops” moment on a debate stage, think again: Who exactly would bring stronger credentials than Perry in 2016?

Let’s dispense with Christie immediately, because millions of Republicans nationwide already have. I’m pleased to have him as Governor of New Jersey, but his zeal to keep that job has involved episodes ranging from fawning over President Obama to faint-at-best support of the Romney-Ryan ticket to ambivalence over some conservative causes.

Senator Paul is an interesting guy. Not as out-there as his Dad, but still steeped in a rigid libertarianism that might place him just outside the GOP primary mainstream.

Walker and JIndal are superb public servants who have helped their states with bold conservative leadership, but they have been around for a hiccup of time compared to the decade and a half Perry will be able to tout in a thriving Texas.

I mention Jeb Bush only because every 2016 preview insists on it, even though I find absolutely no groundswell of desire for his candidacy.

So again-- tell me who would be a bigger deal than Perry at the starting gate sometime around the summer of 2015? (I’m not forgetting Sarah Palin. I just don’t think she will run for President again, and who knows? She may be freshly installed by then as Alaska’s newest United States Senator.)

Now to the irony you may have already discerned. There is one name that might excite as many voters as Perry, if not more, and he is one of those pesky 42-year-olds, and from the same state, to boot.

That would be Ted Cruz, who has generated more buzz and passion in six months in the U.S. Senate than some leaders do in an entire career. A poll this month already shows more Texans stoked about Cruz than Perry for the White House.

But let’s tap the brakes for a moment. While Cruz has more zip on the appeal meter right now-- and he deserves every bit of it-- there would have to be attention to the skills needed to win a general election, and there Perry’s seasoning and broader appeal may accrue to his advantage.

But if national GOP voters are in the same “screw it, we want a fighter” mood that Texas voters channeled last year, Cruz would be a force so formidable that Perry may choose to stay out rather than walk into that buzz saw.

But when have we been in that mood lately? No wonder we pine for Reagan. He wasn’t just a magnificent President, he was the last consistently conservative nominee we offered up-- and I say that with all due respect for our standardbearers since, especially George W. Bush, whose presidency I will always be grateful for in the post-9/11 era, even though government got way too big on his watch.

So a lot of fortunes depend on the mood of Republican voters as 2015 winds to a close and the Iowa caucuses draw near. Will we atomize our preferences along a wide spectrum containing some worthy warriors, allowing another under-inspiring, semi-conservative to waltz through the crowd to the convention?

Or will we be in the mood to stand up to Hillary, or whoever the left’s hero will be that year? Will we be ready to fight for the repeal of Obamacare, lower taxes, state’s rights and a strong values agenda?

He may have struggled last year to remember that third cabinet agency he would get rid of, but with four more years of protecting Texas from the Obama agenda, coupled with a crisper approach toward campaigning, Rick Perry would be a strong bet to land among the strongest contenders when hopefuls start announcing two years from now.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: 2016; 2016elections; 2016gopprimary; perry2016; presidentialnominee; rickperry
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To: hosepipe

Newt is an internationalist. He loved the book “The Third wave”, and promotes it to others, the UN also , he is in good with Bill Clinton and they have many of the same ‘communist’ associates and friends. We know he is not faithful, and can not be trusted. Too bad really , he is a great communicator, and is smart. He simply does not believe in keeping America sovereign and Constitutional.

Most everyone wants to benefit their own self, and there are people with principles and that is what we want.


61 posted on 07/12/2013 7:56:33 AM PDT by geologist ("If you love me, keep my commands" .... John 14 :15)
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To: rawhide
Rick Perry has done a great job, but he is so boring to listen to. He also does not seem the fire in the belly, very similar to Romney.

He's also a little too friendly with La Raza and that crowd, among many other things. And thanks to over a decade of appointments, he's accumulated a lot of power, which is not exactly limited government in my book.

I don't care for him, and I think he takes far too much credit for Texas economy since much of it is based on location and resources that were around millions of years before Rick Perry walked the earth.

However, I give him a lot of credit for going to China in 2010 and getting them to spend a few billion on buying up oil and gas resources in Texas. Perry did an incredible job of selling the Chinese on getting deep into Texas oil and gas (pun intended). That Chinese money has been a shot in the arm for a lot of folks who were out of work in Texas, and it's a big part of the current oil boom. If the Chinese weren't spending billions buying up Texas resources, I'm not sure who would be. I think there would be a few tens of thousands of Texans out of work as well.
62 posted on 07/12/2013 9:03:12 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: JCBreckenridge
Personally, I’d love to see Santorum get his shot. He’s earned it.

This is one of the biggest problems with the GOP - thinking Santorum or Perry or whoever get their shot at the election because it's their turn. That mentality has given us George H.W. Bush, Bob Dole, George W. Bush, John McCain, and Mitt Romney. Not exactly a stellar field of Conservatives.

As long as we have this idea that it's going to be somebody's turn, the Conservatives will be left out. We need somebody who will get in there and fight and claw their way to the top, because you can't compete well against the Democrats based solely on it being your turn.

You have to be willing to fight the good fight, not stand in line waiting for your turn.
63 posted on 07/12/2013 9:07:06 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: grania
It's the puppet masters trying to take hold of the discussion before a true constituional conservative gains traction. It's interesting that Rand Paul and Ted Cruz were mentioned, even if dismissed.

That's exactly what is happening - these are the same folks pushing Rubio as well, and trying to give people the notion that he has the support of the GOP, he's just having a tough time with the anti-amnesty crowd. The truth is, he does not have the anti-amnesty crowd behind him at all, but the MSM is trying to push the idea that it's just a small spat and no big deal.

This happened with McCain and it happened with Romney, and I'm sure it's happened with others. Present some moderates like Rubio and Perry, pretend like they are the frontrunners, with the notion of telling the lie long enough and loud enough that it becomes the truth.
64 posted on 07/12/2013 9:12:47 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: jpsb
I think there is a lot of truth in what you say. Texas is a weak governor state.

If you've been in power for over a decade like Perry has, that means you have had over a decade to make appointments, which is a lot of power to shape the state, no matter which way you look at it. To quote the Governor's website:

The authority to make governmental appointments is one of the powers given to the Governor of Texas by the state's constitution.

During a four-year term, a Governor will make about 3,000 appointments.

Most appointments are:
State officials and members of state boards, commissions and councils that carry out the laws and direct the policies of state government activities;
Members of task forces that advise the Governor or executive agencies on specific issues and policies; and
State elected and judicial offices when vacancies occur by resignation or death of the office holder.

65 posted on 07/12/2013 9:16:17 AM PDT by af_vet_rr
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To: geologist

I think a CAbal(Junta) is running Washington.. its quite obvious..

What is needed is an Anti-Cabal.. There does not seem to be one..
An Anti Cabal with a plan a Large Awful Mean Heinous Deadly Plan..
A plan to send the cockroaches scurrying..

It looks like ALL REPUBLICANS are delusional.. or worse..


66 posted on 07/12/2013 9:50:23 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: TomGuy

If rove, preibus or the bush family want someone... I will not vote for them.

LLS


67 posted on 07/12/2013 10:21:06 AM PDT by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS!)
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To: JCBreckenridge
Me? I supported Cruz and the Constitution party.

How about yourself? Who did you support?

Cain, then Perry, then Gingrich, and finally, Romney.

As for Cruz, hopefully he has a future, but it won't be in the Constitution Party. Third parties in this country lose, in case you haven't noticed.

68 posted on 07/12/2013 11:33:18 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Kaslin
I find it interesting that the second link in your post is from Buzzfeed, which is a leftwing site

Irrelevant. BuzzFeed just slapped their name over video excerpted from ABC, another left-wing site, of Santorum explaining his stomach-turn to George Stephanopoulos, who used to work for Billy Jeff.

If you watch it, you will see that Santorum actually did about a good a job as could be expected making the case for a role for religion in public life. But not good enough to persuade the horse to return to the barn.

69 posted on 07/12/2013 11:49:02 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Kaslin

It’s for Cruz to lose. I don’t see Sarah running. I’ll accept Paul. I don’t see any other non-RINO rivals.


70 posted on 07/12/2013 1:39:15 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: diogenes ghost

-— with Spectre as his running-mate. ——

Sean Connery will handle Spectre.


71 posted on 07/12/2013 1:42:57 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Kaslin

I like Perry, but I rarely vote in the primary. Texas votes late and the media/dims/RINOS have decided who our candidate is by the time I can vote. I wish it was not so but I haven’t heard that it will change.

I wish every state would primary vote on the same day, like the election.


72 posted on 07/12/2013 1:50:19 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Kaslin
I suspect that 2016 will, once again, not be about who you are voting for, but who you are voting against.
Dunno if the 'Pubbies can win under those circumstances, anymore. Dunno if they deserve to win.
73 posted on 07/12/2013 1:59:04 PM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: cynwoody

If you have a problem with losers why did you go Newt?

He even supports gay marriage?

Santorum won 9 states, Newt only won 2.


74 posted on 07/12/2013 2:19:42 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: af_vet_rr

Santorum’s a solid conservative. Everyone seems determined to write him off. Again - every single person who’s won as many states as Santorum has had a shot as Republican nominee.


75 posted on 07/12/2013 2:21:28 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: jpsb

Fiscal conservatives aren’t conservatives.

They are just social liberals.

If they want a social liberal, hey, there’s Omugabe. Go vote for him.


76 posted on 07/12/2013 2:25:44 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: JCBreckenridge
If you have a problem with losers why did you go Newt?

Because he's a junk-yard dog who was determined to take the fight to Obama. Admittedly, he is also a loose cannon prone to work accidents, but, by that time, the field was pretty limited.

77 posted on 07/12/2013 2:44:48 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

Fun fact, if you look at states won, Santorum always lead Newt.


78 posted on 07/12/2013 3:08:42 PM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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To: JCBreckenridge
We got Obama because Bush, if you want a Bush clone then yeah Santorum is your guy. If your cool with trampling all over the Constitution, huge deficits, out of control spending and a big government nanny state, vote Santorum. And I grantee in no time at all you will have another Obama.

And you are full of crap about constitution/fiscal conservatives being social liberals. We are not, but social conservatives are IN FACT big government/ anti-constitution/nanny state LIBERALS. Just like your hero W. Nonminate Santorum and real conservatives will stay home on election day. Santorum is UNACCEPTABLE! Jeb Bush is UNACCEPTABLE.

79 posted on 07/13/2013 8:03:48 AM PDT by jpsb (Believe nothing until it has been offically denied)
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To: jpsb

“constitution/fiscal conservatives being social liberals.”

I find the correlation close to 1:1 between so-called ‘fiscal’ conservatives who take the time to attack social conservatives like Santorum.

“Nonminate Santorum and real conservatives”

Right. Which is why he won states like MO, CO, MS, AL, TN, LA (by a huge margin),

Fiscal ‘conservatives’ like yourself are never willing to support an actual conservative like Santorum. As a result we get ‘choices’ like McCain/Obama and Romney/Obama. That’s twice now you’ve nominated fellow social liberal/fiscal conservatives to big losses.

It makes sense that you hate Bush so much, because he actually won elections. The last thing you want is a republican win because that means social conservatives might get something through.


80 posted on 07/13/2013 8:12:06 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge ("we are pilgrims in an unholy land")
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