So Who Exactly is Stronger Than Rick Perry in 2016?

Townhall.com ^ | July 12, 2013 | Mark Davis

[geologist]

Newt is an internationalist. He loved the book “The Third wave”, and promotes it to others, the UN also , he is in good with Bill Clinton and they have many of the same ‘communist’ associates and friends. We know he is not faithful, and can not be trusted. Too bad really , he is a great communicator, and is smart. He simply does not believe in keeping America sovereign and Constitutional.

Most everyone wants to benefit their own self, and there are people with principles and that is what we want.

[af_vet_rr]

Rick Perry has done a great job, but he is so boring to listen to. He also does not seem the fire in the belly, very similar to Romney.

He's also a little too friendly with La Raza and that crowd, among many other things. And thanks to over a decade of appointments, he's accumulated a lot of power, which is not exactly limited government in my book.

I don't care for him, and I think he takes far too much credit for Texas economy since much of it is based on location and resources that were around millions of years before Rick Perry walked the earth.

However, I give him a lot of credit for going to China in 2010 and getting them to spend a few billion on buying up oil and gas resources in Texas. Perry did an incredible job of selling the Chinese on getting deep into Texas oil and gas (pun intended). That Chinese money has been a shot in the arm for a lot of folks who were out of work in Texas, and it's a big part of the current oil boom. If the Chinese weren't spending billions buying up Texas resources, I'm not sure who would be. I think there would be a few tens of thousands of Texans out of work as well.

[af_vet_rr]

Personally, I’d love to see Santorum get his shot. He’s earned it.

This is one of the biggest problems with the GOP - thinking Santorum or Perry or whoever get their shot at the election because it's their turn. That mentality has given us George H.W. Bush, Bob Dole, George W. Bush, John McCain, and Mitt Romney. Not exactly a stellar field of Conservatives.

As long as we have this idea that it's going to be somebody's turn, the Conservatives will be left out. We need somebody who will get in there and fight and claw their way to the top, because you can't compete well against the Democrats based solely on it being your turn.

You have to be willing to fight the good fight, not stand in line waiting for your turn.

[af_vet_rr]

It's the puppet masters trying to take hold of the discussion before a true constituional conservative gains traction. It's interesting that Rand Paul and Ted Cruz were mentioned, even if dismissed.

That's exactly what is happening - these are the same folks pushing Rubio as well, and trying to give people the notion that he has the support of the GOP, he's just having a tough time with the anti-amnesty crowd. The truth is, he does not have the anti-amnesty crowd behind him at all, but the MSM is trying to push the idea that it's just a small spat and no big deal.

This happened with McCain and it happened with Romney, and I'm sure it's happened with others. Present some moderates like Rubio and Perry, pretend like they are the frontrunners, with the notion of telling the lie long enough and loud enough that it becomes the truth.

[af_vet_rr]

I think there is a lot of truth in what you say. Texas is a weak governor state.

If you've been in power for over a decade like Perry has, that means you have had over a decade to make appointments, which is a lot of power to shape the state, no matter which way you look at it. To quote the Governor's website:

The authority to make governmental appointments is one of the powers given to the Governor of Texas by the state's constitution.

During a four-year term, a Governor will make about 3,000 appointments.

Most appointments are:
State officials and members of state boards, commissions and councils that carry out the laws and direct the policies of state government activities;
Members of task forces that advise the Governor or executive agencies on specific issues and policies; and
State elected and judicial offices when vacancies occur by resignation or death of the office holder.

[hosepipe]

I think a CAbal(Junta) is running Washington.. its quite obvious..

What is needed is an Anti-Cabal.. There does not seem to be one..
An Anti Cabal with a plan a Large Awful Mean Heinous Deadly Plan..
A plan to send the cockroaches scurrying..

It looks like ALL REPUBLICANS are delusional.. or worse..

[LibLieSlayer]

If rove, preibus or the bush family want someone... I will not vote for them.

LLS

[cynwoody]

Me? I supported Cruz and the Constitution party.

How about yourself? Who did you support?

Cain, then Perry, then Gingrich, and finally, Romney.

As for Cruz, hopefully he has a future, but it won't be in the Constitution Party. Third parties in this country lose, in case you haven't noticed.

[cynwoody]

I find it interesting that the second link in your post is from Buzzfeed, which is a leftwing site

Irrelevant. BuzzFeed just slapped their name over video excerpted from ABC, another left-wing site, of Santorum explaining his stomach-turn to George Stephanopoulos, who used to work for Billy Jeff.

If you watch it, you will see that Santorum actually did about a good a job as could be expected making the case for a role for religion in public life. But not good enough to persuade the horse to return to the barn.

[St_Thomas_Aquinas]

It’s for Cruz to lose. I don’t see Sarah running. I’ll accept Paul. I don’t see any other non-RINO rivals.

[St_Thomas_Aquinas]

-— with Spectre as his running-mate. ——

Sean Connery will handle Spectre.

[Ditter]

I like Perry, but I rarely vote in the primary. Texas votes late and the media/dims/RINOS have decided who our candidate is by the time I can vote. I wish it was not so but I haven’t heard that it will change.

I wish every state would primary vote on the same day, like the election.

[Little Ray]

I suspect that 2016 will, once again, not be about who you are voting for, but who you are voting against.
Dunno if the 'Pubbies can win under those circumstances, anymore. Dunno if they deserve to win.

[JCBreckenridge]

If you have a problem with losers why did you go Newt?

He even supports gay marriage?

Santorum won 9 states, Newt only won 2.

[JCBreckenridge]

Santorum’s a solid conservative. Everyone seems determined to write him off. Again - every single person who’s won as many states as Santorum has had a shot as Republican nominee.

[JCBreckenridge]

Fiscal conservatives aren’t conservatives.

They are just social liberals.

If they want a social liberal, hey, there’s Omugabe. Go vote for him.

[cynwoody]

If you have a problem with losers why did you go Newt?

Because he's a junk-yard dog who was determined to take the fight to Obama. Admittedly, he is also a loose cannon prone to work accidents, but, by that time, the field was pretty limited.

[JCBreckenridge]

Fun fact, if you look at states won, Santorum always lead Newt.

[jpsb]

We got Obama because Bush, if you want a Bush clone then yeah Santorum is your guy. If your cool with trampling all over the Constitution, huge deficits, out of control spending and a big government nanny state, vote Santorum. And I grantee in no time at all you will have another Obama.

And you are full of crap about constitution/fiscal conservatives being social liberals. We are not, but social conservatives are IN FACT big government/ anti-constitution/nanny state LIBERALS. Just like your hero W. Nonminate Santorum and real conservatives will stay home on election day. Santorum is UNACCEPTABLE! Jeb Bush is UNACCEPTABLE.

[JCBreckenridge]

“constitution/fiscal conservatives being social liberals.”

I find the correlation close to 1:1 between so-called ‘fiscal’ conservatives who take the time to attack social conservatives like Santorum.

“Nonminate Santorum and real conservatives”

Right. Which is why he won states like MO, CO, MS, AL, TN, LA (by a huge margin),

Fiscal ‘conservatives’ like yourself are never willing to support an actual conservative like Santorum. As a result we get ‘choices’ like McCain/Obama and Romney/Obama. That’s twice now you’ve nominated fellow social liberal/fiscal conservatives to big losses.

It makes sense that you hate Bush so much, because he actually won elections. The last thing you want is a republican win because that means social conservatives might get something through.