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Breaking – State moves to charge Zimmerman with 3d Degree Murder based on Aggravated Child Abuse
Legal Insurrection ^ | Thursday, July 11, 2013 at 10:37am | William A. Jacobson

Posted on 07/11/2013 9:11:32 AM PDT by Sopater

As expected, the Judge in the George Zimmerman case ruled that in addition to Second Degree Murder, she will instruct the jury on the lesser included offense of Manslaughter, as required by Florida case law.

In a surprise move this morning, the prosecution asked the Judge to drop the Aggravated Assault charge and to instruct the jury on Third Degree Murder, which is murder in the course of committing a felony.

The felony the State wanted as the predicate was Aggravated Child Abuse (Jury Instruction) because Trayvon Martin was 17 at the time of the shooting.

According to Don West, the defense was not notified until 7:30 a.m. this morning.

This surprise is important because the defense did not have time to research the law, while the State presented numerous cases. Generally it is not a defense to child abuse that the perpetrator did not know the age of the victim. This is an unusual circumstance, however, where Zimmerman was punched in the nose and the “child” was on top punching him — to say that excessive use of force in defense of an attack by a “child” is child abuse certainly requires some time to research and argue. I don’t know the answer to that legal question, but the court should give the defense time to research and argue it. (Update 11:35 a.m. — Judge just indicated she will give defense time to research, but didn’t indicate how long until 1 p.m.)

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events; US: Florida
KEYWORDS: 2a; 3rddegreemurder; banglist; blackkk; florida; georgezimmerman; rapeofliberty; rehash; selfdefense; trayvonmartin; zimmerman; zimmermantrial
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To: Chickensoup

I don’t think whites would riot, but I suggest if Zimmerman is railroaded, EVERY white citizen across the country boycotts black owned businesses—walk into a business and ask right out if the owner is black and voted for Benghazi Barry—if you get an afirmative, walk the hell out.


61 posted on 07/11/2013 9:37:25 AM PDT by Mortrey (Impeach President Soros)
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To: Sopater
Aggravated Child Abuse (Jury Instruction) because Trayvon Martin was 17 at the time of the shooting.

How the hell is that going to square with Trayvon being the aggressor as in pounding George's head into the cement and breaking his face up?

62 posted on 07/11/2013 9:37:35 AM PDT by Slyfox (Without the Right to Life, all other rights are meaningless.)
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To: jimbo123

Nice picture of two racists shaking hands.


63 posted on 07/11/2013 9:37:55 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Your tagline says it right.


64 posted on 07/11/2013 9:37:57 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: CodeToad
Maybe WE should be the ones threatening to riot!

Remember, this is all being sponsored by government.

We all know what happened here.

It's why the gangsters texts, pics and background were not allowed in by government.

There are *lots* of things people can do if they just get creative.

65 posted on 07/11/2013 9:38:24 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Born to Conserve

Don’t leave any witnesses, DNA, fingerprints, and for god sakes, don’t tell the cops.


66 posted on 07/11/2013 9:38:49 AM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: jimbo123

How much evidence of corruption do we need?

Hero of Benghazi
Cover up of Benghazi and jailing an innocent scapegoat
Gun running to another country
Ineligible for the job
Failure to prosecute intimidation at the polls
Firing the investigator of his friend the mayor of sacramento
Corrupting the IRS
Pro-islamic extremists
Somebody posts a list of over 200 indictment

Was watergate any more serious than any of these.


67 posted on 07/11/2013 9:39:22 AM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Biggirl

So, who are we supposed to revolt against, and HOW are we going to revolt?

I’m interested in learning about what you think will happen in terms of a ‘future revolt’ over the Zimmerman case.


68 posted on 07/11/2013 9:39:33 AM PDT by INVAR ("Fart for liberty, fart for freedom and fart proudly!" - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Excellent point! George was supposed to ask Trayvon for his ID so he’d know whether or not to let Trayvon kill him with his own gun or not? “Oh, you’re a CHILD?.. Well then, punch away, Trayvon!!!”


69 posted on 07/11/2013 9:40:20 AM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: Mortrey

Might work, if there were more black owned businesses...

Just not seeing it having a lot of impact though.


70 posted on 07/11/2013 9:41:05 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: INVAR

Not today or tomorrow or even after the Zimmerman trial, when the garbage hits the fan, it wILL HAPPEN.

I stnad on my prediction.


71 posted on 07/11/2013 9:41:21 AM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Hotlanta Mike

If they can charge Zimmerman with child abuse, why can’t they charge the father with the same for allowing his child out at night unsupervised?


72 posted on 07/11/2013 9:41:41 AM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
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To: Mr. K

I wondered the same thing. Crazy.


73 posted on 07/11/2013 9:42:05 AM PDT by Girlene (Hey, NSA!)
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To: Sopater

This is simply insane...how can you have one charge that requires intent to do grave bodily harm/death and another charge that requires the opposite, accidental bodily injury/death due to gross negligence? The charges themselves show that the state demonstrates reasonable doubt with regard to intent. How can you possibly defend yourself when you need to prove BOTH intent and non-intent?


74 posted on 07/11/2013 9:42:07 AM PDT by fuente (Liberty resides in three boxes: the ballot box, the jury box and the cartridge box--Fredrick Douglas)
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To: Sopater
Manslaughter doesn't sound so ominous, but still carries a stiff penalty in Floria. I am scared to death that he will be found guilty. It is a loss, loss situation for George Zimmerman.
75 posted on 07/11/2013 9:42:44 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek (")
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To: fuente

Jury nullification possible?


76 posted on 07/11/2013 9:42:55 AM PDT by varina davis (A real American patriot -- Gov. Rick Perry)
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To: MrB
Yeah, a 17 yr old, 6’ 3”, 220 lb, MMA trained, first/sucker punch throwing, straddle vice beating with intent to kill, “child”.

Not disagreeing with you, but those stats are off. As brought out by the medical examiner it was more like 5'11 158 lb (or thereabouts). But definitely athletic and had a reputation for being a fighter.

77 posted on 07/11/2013 9:43:56 AM PDT by Humbug
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To: Sopater

Hey, they elect RINOs like there is no tomorrow, let child murderers walk if they’re party girls, Florida is already below the tide, the red tide lapping across this land.


78 posted on 07/11/2013 9:44:23 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi --)
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THROW THE MARXIST OUT!!!

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79 posted on 07/11/2013 9:44:29 AM PDT by RedMDer (When immigrants cannot or will not assimilate, its really just an invasion. Throw them out!)
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To: Windcatcher
“Now you’re gonna know what it’s like to be ruled by the black man.”

As if we needed to wait to know, when we have the examples of Haiti, South Africa under the ANC, Zimbabwe, almost any African country you can name, plus the American examples of Detroit, New Orleans under Nagin, Chicago under its black "reverend" aldermen, Memphis, etc. He's saying it's better for blacks to rule in Hell, than be ruled in Paradise.
80 posted on 07/11/2013 9:45:03 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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