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Day 21 (Week #5) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 9, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/09/2013 4:51:37 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 9th, is DAY #21 (of 5th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

Yesterday was the first full day of defense witnesses. Perhaps the most significant of the first set were the two police officers who stated Tracy Martin, Trayvon’s father, said on 2/28/12 the cries for help on the 911 calls were NOT Trayvon. Later in the day Tracy Martin took the stand and essentially said the two detectives were lying. A great analysis of the events from yesterday is available HERE.

What additionally strikes as important to us is the first signs of desperation from the original nucleus of the Scheme Team construct, Benjamin Crump and Daryl Parks – attorneys for the Martin family. Parks appeared on Piers Morgan show last night and the video should be watched by anyone who knows how the scheme was constructed.

We accept that Mark O’Mara is conflicted in this case, and he is trying to walk a fine line between presenting a defense to a case built on political pressure and outright fraud; Yet simultaneously avoiding exposition of both the politics and the fraud itself.

The intentionally avoided open doors exposing the fraud creates anxiety for those of us who know what is inside the room he is avoiding. Our prayers are that his passing those wide open doors is based on prudence [within an unknown strategy]. However, our fear is the hasty and politically correct avoidance might cause him to pass by the room holding the key to George Zimmerman’s ultimate ‘long-term’ freedom.

It should be noted the NAACP Annual National Convention starts in Orlando on Friday; Additionally, preparations are being made in/around Miami-Dade for a Wednesday defense wrap up with a community/LEO preparation meeting today.

(Excerpt) Read more at wftv.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: george; kangaroocourt; showtrial; trayvon; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: don-o

The only reason it wasn’t authenticated was because the state was hiding it. She is correct it needs to be authenticated. With two passwords and physical possession that wouldn’t be hard.


2,501 posted on 07/09/2013 7:21:55 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: Uncle Chip

Once a witness has been dismissed without subjection to recall, any party may talk to the witness.


2,502 posted on 07/09/2013 7:22:01 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: NautiNurse

Right in the middle (moderate, lol)


2,503 posted on 07/09/2013 7:22:16 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: hoosiermama

>> Alter she cools down and thinks about it prosecution lied to her too.

She may just now be seeing that, but it’s not for lack of trying by the defense to make her aware of it.

She did nothing to force proper discovery by the prosecution MONTHS ago... nor would she delay the trial so the defense could work with the late evidence forced on them.

An appeals court should be quite interested in these issues. But I hope it doesn’t come to that, and I’m confident it will not.


2,504 posted on 07/09/2013 7:22:28 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: RummyChick

“Of course, this technique also has the potential effect, as indicated in this case, of denying a party effective or meaningful representation by counsel. As with jurors, lawyers have limits and cannot be expected to routinely work trial days that extend well beyond ordinary ending time and into the evening.[1] Hence in a criminal case, it could lead to a denial of the effective assistance of counsel as required by the Sixth Amendment. In a civil case the effect, though not of a constitutional nature, could just as likely erode the fundamental right to have worthwhile representation by the lawyer. In either event, the conclusion is that exhausting counsel by such proceedings deprives the party of the right to have a lawyer’s skillful service.”

Somebody better tell Judge Nelson about this case!


2,505 posted on 07/09/2013 7:23:08 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: XenaLee

They could subpena whoever the text msgs were sent to and get it from the horses mouth!


2,506 posted on 07/09/2013 7:23:10 PM PDT by sheikdetailfeather (Yuri Bezmenov (KGB Defector) - "Kick The Communists Out of Your Govt. & Don't Accept Their Goodies.")
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To: Toespi

I’ve been listening/watching and I’m darn tired and I’m three hours behind.


2,507 posted on 07/09/2013 7:23:39 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: Ronald_Magnus

>> And Guy wanting an apology from West.....Puh-leez.

Actually I think I heard Guy issue one of those snarky non-apology apologies...

“I apologize to the defense that I didn’t give them what I didn’t have.” Or something like that.


2,508 posted on 07/09/2013 7:23:48 PM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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To: RetSignman

if files= if SHE files


2,509 posted on 07/09/2013 7:24:17 PM PDT by RetSignman (Immigration border protection is America's version of the Maginot Line)
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To: Nervous Tick

the court of public opinion will find this texts etc relevant...even if the judge doesn’t

if they cant authenticate the texts etc how can they do it to use against a defendant? must be some precedents...


2,510 posted on 07/09/2013 7:24:43 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: DrewsMum

I can’t look at Nancy Grace.


2,511 posted on 07/09/2013 7:24:54 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: RummyChick

interesting RC!


2,512 posted on 07/09/2013 7:24:58 PM PDT by viaveritasvita (The Grace of God has appeared, bringing Salvation to all men. Titus 2:11)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

True. But do they have time now? Supposedly, Defense was planning on resting their case tomorrow. If I was MOM & West, I would drag this out until Friday, instead.


2,513 posted on 07/09/2013 7:25:11 PM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: viaveritasvita

He turned in early. Will catch him up later when he’s up to it


2,514 posted on 07/09/2013 7:25:45 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: machogirl

She has really been pissing me off.


2,515 posted on 07/09/2013 7:26:13 PM PDT by txmissy
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Oh...one last thing...

Thanks for the best laugh attack I’ve had in AGES!!!!!!!!!!


2,516 posted on 07/09/2013 7:26:19 PM PDT by viaveritasvita (The Grace of God has appeared, bringing Salvation to all men. Titus 2:11)
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To: Nervous Tick

I’m playing catch up at nearly 10:30pm. Is there something known about the juror from Chicago that you all think would make her the bleeding heart on the jury? Or is it supposition based on where she hails from?

I ask because I have family up in Chicago and its ‘burbs, including a (late) sister and a couple of nieces, none of whom is liberal, and who suffer thru the political environment there. I can’t picture any one of them voting to convict here, given the evidence so far. And there’s not likely to be anything different from here on out.

IMO,it was over for the prosecution from Day One as they just didn’t have a case.


2,517 posted on 07/09/2013 7:27:09 PM PDT by EDINVA
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To: txmissy

If I was looking at her, I’d be pissed off too.


2,518 posted on 07/09/2013 7:27:25 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: Dr. Bogus Pachysandra; jaybee

I always thought that based on how much better Rodney King looked during the trial, the cops were just performing reconstructive surgery on his face; he looked so good. J/K

On a serious note, there was no way to tell how much force was used to strike Rodney King with the batons.


2,519 posted on 07/09/2013 7:28:14 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: XenaLee
If I was MOM & West, I would drag this out until Friday, instead.

With a fairly decent chance of a sequestered jury and a tropical storm. Teehee!

2,520 posted on 07/09/2013 7:28:31 PM PDT by NautiNurse (Now we all have Obama phones.)
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