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To: rodguy911

Bob Bob, Bob,can you show me a viable path to re-establishing conservatism in America other than throwing out the rinos and the GOP-E from the Republican Party and literally taking it back? And don’t tell me a third party is the answer. That’s a sure pathway to losing the country permanently.


In any case, it seems to me there is a two-step process required. First, defeat the RINOs (via any means possible) and only THEN defeat the Demoviks.

Step One will likely require “losing the country.” But we’re certainly NOT going to keep the country if all we have to depend on are Republican establishment types. I wouldn’t lift a finger to help any of them because I really can barely tell them apart from the Demoviks.

The other thing here is: I question the “tea party” movement as a national movement of any impact. 2016 is wide open so who is the tea party candidate for the Republican presidential ticket?

And please don’t tell me we’re gonna have 4 or 5 candidates in Republican debate forums all over the nation starting in 2015, splitting our vote and thus ushering Jeb and the RINOs to the top of the heap by desultory pluralities mainly achieved in blue states unwinnable in November—!

In short, WHO is gonna “take back” the Republican party?


112 posted on 07/07/2013 8:03:01 AM PDT by PaleoBob
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To: PaleoBob
Its up to us Bob.

If we can't make it happen it won't.

We know the drills. Donate only to conservative candidates, get Palin and others to take down all the rinos and slowly but surely take it back. Its the only viable option I see. If I'm missing something let me know.

120 posted on 07/07/2013 8:20:33 AM PDT by rodguy911 (FreeRepublic:Land of the Free because of the Brave--Sarah Palin our secret weapon)
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To: PaleoBob; rodguy911
In short, WHO is gonna “take back” the Republican party?

Many of the new 'tea party' Pubbies folded within weeks. Pubbies, in general, are expected to fold on most issues. It's their nature. It's what they do.

Many of them run to the right during the election, only to change direction and head left soon after they take their seats.

Two of the greatest disappointments of the last 2 years have been Rep. Paul Ryan and Sen. Marco Rubio. They can't push the leftist agenda fast enough any more. What happened to them? Who has the compromising pix? But, I could easily list a dozen more who have turned left.

My state has only 1 national office still held by a Democrat. [All 4 House seats and 1 Senate seat are now held by Republicans.] Just a few elections ago, most of those were held by Democrats. But, the Republicans now holding those seats tend to be in the 60-70% range in supporting conservative issues. And none of them have made headlines bucking the GOPelite or GOP leadership.

Many party members have been screaming for the 'change from within' since the 2002 election cycle. The GOPe still hold the power positions. The 'tea party' had a chance to make a major statement in January, but they folded and went along with the other Republicans to re-elect the same Speaker of the House.

Doing the same things, voting the same people back in, is not going to change the party. Recall the standard definition of insanity: Doing the same thing over again and expecting a different result.

[Again, I relinquish the soapbox.]
144 posted on 07/07/2013 8:59:50 AM PDT by TomGuy (.)
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