[BroJoeK]

JCBreckenridge: "I think the North could have said that they supported freedom and liberty, but that time has passed now."

All conservatives -- North, South, East or West -- support more freedom and liberty than we enjoy now.
And no state -- not one -- is free of Liberal/Progressives whose every waking moment is consumed by finding ways to increase the size, cost and regulations of Big Government.

In some states conservatives slightly outnumber liberal/progressives and so keep government on a slightly shorter leash.
In other states Liberals dominate politics and government grows correspondingly.

I'm only saying: if you live in a more conservative state, then be thankful, but don't get too all-fired cocky about it, because you don't know how long before you'll join some of the rest of us... ;-)

[JCBreckenridge]

I’m looking at the roster of states.

Minnesota
Michigan
Illinois
Pennsylvania
New York
New Jersey
Connecticut
Rhode Island
Vermont
Ohio
New Hampshire
Maine
Wisconsin
Iowa

All voted for Obama.

So you’ll forgive me if I think we’d be best off without you folks. Then you can form your own state.