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Day 19 (Week #4) Zimmerman Trial – Witness Discussion Thread
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | July 5, 2013 | Sundance

Posted on 07/05/2013 4:54:41 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Today, July 5th, is DAY #19 (of 4th week) State of Florida V. George Zimmerman case.

The State is expected to wrap up their case today – A great recap of the trial so far is available HERE: The key witness today expected to be Sybrina Fulton, mom.

Great Expectations? Remember, as y’all have noted during the 15+ months of research, there is so much corruption in the assembly of this case we could expect the State to avoid the traditional witnesses brought by normal prosecutions. We have not been disappointed in our predictions. The state has already won a pre-trial motion to bar the defense mentioning the absence of any witness from the State’s case.

So it comes as no surprise, not a single State investigator has been called, not a single FBI officer, only one local investigative detective, Chris Serino (who supported the defense), and now the profound possibility they won’t even present the Seminole County Medical Examiner. So has the State actually even proven that Trayvon is indeed, deceased? Without the M.E. the ballistics are essentially moot – where did the aforementioned bullet come from? They have not established it came from Trayvon’s body. Think about it.

Because of pre-trial ‘motions in limine’ to exclude the defense bringing it up, O’Mara cannot mention it. Would/Will the jurors notice a missing M.E. = Trayvon blood tox. etc?

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bao; fulton; jahvarisfulton; notes; shiping; shipingbao; showtrial; sybrina; sybrinafulton; trayvonmartin; zimmerman
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To: dragnet2

They have the bedside manner and communication skills for it... (;->


541 posted on 07/05/2013 7:52:47 AM PDT by Kozak (The Republic is Dead. We now live in a Judicial Tyranny.)
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To: rusty schucklefurd

re: “You have a Reformed view of OSAS.”

By “reformed” I take you mean, “Calvinist”. How so?

I do NOT believe that God predestines people to heaven or hell. I believe in free will of the individual to choose or reject God’s offer of salvation. Is that a Reformed doctrine?


A liberal asked me if I believed there were ANY examples of evolution that I would aknowledge. I said yes. I’ve been impressed by the evolution of the Corvette.


542 posted on 07/05/2013 7:52:53 AM PDT by cuban leaf (Were doomed! Details at eleven.)
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To: sweetiepiezer

The ME is guessing regarding how long the attacker lived after shot...He has not a clue here.

Once again, the government has nothing..


543 posted on 07/05/2013 7:52:57 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: tioga

So yet ‘another’ state’s witness that ends up verifying the defense’s case. Ah-mazing.

Still no mention of the THC in TM’s system though.


544 posted on 07/05/2013 7:52:58 AM PDT by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: dragnet2

Not so strange. . .to me anyway. . .most Asian medical personnel I’ve dealt with don’t have much empathy for patient suffering.

It is easier to deal with bodies because they don’t ask questions or require any level of compassion on the part of the doctor.

Cultural thing, IMHO.


545 posted on 07/05/2013 7:53:12 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Uncle Chip

Ah.

This ME just said he believes TM was alive between one and ten minutes!

That’s a large gap!

WOW!

Can’t narrow down that time frame?

WOW!


546 posted on 07/05/2013 7:53:28 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: toldyou

I would have used BREATHS only with no chest compressions. I would be afraid of poking a broken rib through the lungs. There may well have been a “sucking chest wound” as others stated before me.
I would have either had someone else try to cover the chest wound as I gave breaths, or would have tried to do so myself.
YES, I have given full CPR twice, with no equipment, by myself. You toss out the “textbook” in trauma cases, each case is different.


547 posted on 07/05/2013 7:53:37 AM PDT by Kansas58
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To: Helen

Maybe if he was a gansta wannabe, tossed between parents like a hot potato and you were close to getting millions for his untimely demise.


548 posted on 07/05/2013 7:53:46 AM PDT by soycd
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To: Elle Bee

Entry wounds tend to close up a bit, so Trayvon could have bled substantially into his thoracic cavity. Much more likely though, is that his heart ceased activity fairly quickly after the shot.


549 posted on 07/05/2013 7:53:59 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: dragnet2

>> No need for someone to read through 1500 posts if they are unable to watch this thing live.

Hey, the posts are half the fun, there, Mr. “If he’s a cracker he must be the attacker”!


550 posted on 07/05/2013 7:54:32 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (Without GOD, men get what they deserve.)
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Alive for 1 to 10 minutes after shot — with pain and suffering — and no chance of survival

So then Raimondo who was doing CPR was what??? prolonging his pain and suffering???


551 posted on 07/05/2013 7:54:54 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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Yea this in pain testimony is all about getting the mom’s on this jury to convict because of emotions and of course FEAR.
What difference does it make if he was in pain? Did GZ act in self defense or not?


552 posted on 07/05/2013 7:55:04 AM PDT by snarkytart
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To: Uncle Chip

Pain was reason TM grabbed his chest and the hands ended up under him. Being alive gave time to say “..... Got me”
Helped defense


553 posted on 07/05/2013 7:55:16 AM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then!)
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To: Kansas58

Laymen don’t do breaths anymore. You do compression and wait for the EMT’s.


554 posted on 07/05/2013 7:55:22 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: dragnet2
I'm mostly posting the photos for anyone who can't watch live, but is following the thread live to remain up to date.

Medical Examiner photo slideshow.

555 posted on 07/05/2013 7:55:27 AM PDT by 101stAirborneVet
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To: dragnet2

——>The ME is guessing regarding how long the attacker lived after shot”

He’s helping the defense make the claim TM pulled his arms back under his body.


556 posted on 07/05/2013 7:55:51 AM PDT by moehoward
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To: onyx

He was alive 1 to 10 minutes after, so that means that GZ did separate his arms and then TM pulled them back in before he died.


557 posted on 07/05/2013 7:55:51 AM PDT by zencycler
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To: Fresh Wind

IIRC, from the store video, Tray had white sneaks on...probably grass stains on the toe of the sneaks


558 posted on 07/05/2013 7:56:05 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Nervous Tick

Good God Almighty.

Can we please have a witness with a command of English?


559 posted on 07/05/2013 7:56:14 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: snarkytart

No kidding! What winding road are they taking here?
This is honestly a challenge for me to be empathic here.
So canned and planned.


560 posted on 07/05/2013 7:56:14 AM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44 ('Hey citizen, what's in YOUR closet?')
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