Posted on 07/03/2013 5:02:09 PM PDT by markomalley
Conservative talk radio host Rush Limbaugh said on Tuesday that it was "quite telling" that Fox News did not want him to talk at length about his opposition to comprehensive immigration reform during his appearance on Fox and Friends.
"Now I told the people at Fox that I wanted to talk about this today three or four times and they wouldn't do it," Limbaugh said on his show after his appearance. "They were not interested in bringing this subject up. I wanted to talk about this in relationship to the current state of the Republican party and they wouldn't do it."
Limbaugh said he "had to bring it up myself to whatever extent I did, and that by the way, is quite telling to me."
Limbaugh did indeed manage to get in some comments about immigration on the show, saying, "Republicans are sitting around twiddling their thumbs worried about immigration and whether the Hispanics like them or not and being skunked on issue after issue after issue."
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Would love to have more, if we could stand the influx of population, which we cannot.
But we especially cannot afford lazy, dependent, socialist (anarchists is what they would have been called back in 1912), America-haters who are here not to love the country and support it. Rather they are here to subvert it and escort it to ruin.
So grow up, turn off the 78 RPM Victrola, and start taking in the world AS IT IS.
And right now America is on the ropes because of the infantile, give-away-the-farm, thinking that you are advocating.
Wake up PapaNew.
Actually, freedom is for all. But in a socialist state, it's another story. You may argue the socialist argument against immigration, that's fine. Let's at least call it what it is.
My entire presence on this thread has consisted of knocking down false assertion after false assertion, as I am armed with facts, not conjecture. Almost every post I have sent up on this thread backs my conclusions with citations.
Because of that, you are now resorting to assumptions and conjecture. Nowhere did I say this needs to occur AT THIS MOMENT, while Obama is President, nor, should it occur, would it necessarily result in the outcome you postulate. Remember, this dude cannot even run a Muslim Brotherhood takeover of Egypt. He's one of the least competent Presidents I have seen in my lifetime, falling to the worse side of Jimmy Carter.
But I do detect a softening of your position, and a change in your demeanor. It appears you may not favor Amnesty as much as you did; I would hope not, the facts are not on your side. It would be the final death-knell for America, and I have demonstrated why.
At least, it is *my* assumption you have been given some important facts and have changed your opinion. If you have, bravo, it speaks of open-mindedness. If you have not, I will continue to refute you, for the benefit of others who read the thread.
I never said I was FOR illegal immigration even though I see where a portion of these people are actually helping us (you might even construe that as a socialist argument except this is breaking unjust laws in favor of free-market volunteerism which is always beneficial).
My point is, let's call at least the socialist-based whine what it is. I guess my other point is the potential mammoth problems with what you propose. Eisenhower got rid of a million plus, but Eisenhower's not Obama and one million plus is not 30 million. You credentials being what they may, don't answer these tough and real issues.
You have an odd idea of what constitutes socialism.
You brought up other reasons like they're Democrats who Obama's purposely bringing in to bolster his party. Fair enough.
Those reasons are sufficient, to a reasonable man who is conservative, to virulently oppose Amnesty.
Eisenhower got rid of a million plus, but Eisenhower's not Obama and one million plus is not 30 million. You credentials being what they may, don't answer these tough and real issues.
I addressed both issues to satisfaction: One million easily becomes two, four, or six million with the force-multiplier of modern technology and assistance at the State level, and while Obama is heinous, he is incompetently so -- further, it would never happen under Obama, since he is staunchly opposed to deportation. The point becomes moot under Obama. It will have to occur under a Conservative (not a Republican) President.
If we ever see one in our lifetimes, that is.
Work for that.
Don't work for Amnesty, which will guarentee we will never see a Republican or a Conservative President ever again.
Here on 4th’ July, I’m happy for you to realize that your “hero” and his 1/2 billion dollar radio contract is your role model, however, feel sorry for your brainwashing from him that is equal to the 53% cool-aid drinking Barry Soetoro disciples!
No wonder, that easy persuaded people like you, makes America, created 237 years ago, to go down the drain by the coming of Sharia Law. And BTW there’s already an immigration law in place!!
Yes, I do understand you don’t dare calling LIMBO on the Article II. Section 1. Clause V regarding the NBC issue, because you would be cut off immediately like hundreds of others have tried. Cheers!!!
BTW, I think I TOO was an avid Limbo fan and listening to him every day until January 14, 2009 when John Roberts had a “secret” meeting with some Chicago-GODFATHER-Mob people at SCOTUS, whispering something softly in Roberts’s ears. From that day on LIMBO and likeminded “fog-horns”, especially those at FAUX News, went mute and AWOL in discussing the NBC issues. Even Roberts and other black robed were publicly humiliated at a later SOUA to the extent that Roberts gave in to obamaScare.
Maybe you also heard of the choir director and his faggot pals murdered, Brennan’s Passport lifter, shot, Bill Gwatney shot, Andrew Breitbart died suddenly on the street by “natural’ causes and Michael Hasting’s car just crashed, hello!!!
Thank you, at least you've finally admitted that you don't listen anymore........
Anything else you might want to say about Rush is nothing more than heresay that you obviously picked up over at DU.......Your dog don't hunt bro so you might as well go fishin'.
Great arguments and citations for your statements, Mr. Mataz.
You’re right as rain, as usual. Thank you for the ping.
I was speaking of the economic consequences only. To imply otherwise that I was equating the two is simply silly.
Fair enough, sorry about that.
They ALL know that we are now France.
What that means is that because of the cultural shift in America (away from traditional families) the Americans who have been here for at least several generations are dying off demographically.
This happened in France. It is happening in America.
Also, we have drastically increased our socialist spending. That requires two important parts in any economy: people to perform the work needed to build and maintain the manufacturing and supply and services in a country and (usually) those same people to be taxed on their labor so that the tax pays for the socialist spending.
This happened in France. It is happening in America.
Both the GOPe and the DNC now realize that in two generations or so, we will have too much spending and not enough workers to tax to pay the bills. We all know that the GOPe and the DNC never want to cut spending truly, which would require reducing the size of government.
So the answer this single group of like-minded traitors has devised is to encourage tens of millions of low-skilled workers to flood our borders to do the work and to pay the bills.
This happened in France. And they imported Islamofascists who hate the French and are trying to take it over for the caliphate. The “youth riots” outside Paris a couple of years ago were these very same Islamofascists.
Now this is coming to America in the form of millions of people who can’t stand Americans and who want to “reclaim” America for Aztlan.
They are traitors who support this latest form of Amnesty.
The answer to most of our ills has a single solution: reduce the size of government spending, which requires drastically reducing the size of government.
Really?
How about a land for free handouts...that the citizens pay for?
How about, a land for people who hate our system and want to fundamentally transform it into a communist/socialist system?
Is that what we are really all about?
What you quoted on the statue has nothing to do with our founding documents. It is a crappy sonnet written by someone with socialist sympathies. And we are open to take those who need a hand, but we do NOT want people to parasite off the citizens of this country.
There were two huge differences between our LEGAL immigration (I have no idea where you got the idea there were no restrictions on immigration in the 1920’s, there were, including quarantine) then and now:
1. The people coming here knew and understood that contrary to the anti-Americans, we did have a uniquely American culture. They knew that and were willing to put their own cultures aside in the public sphere in order to join the American culture and add to that UNITY that made us so strong and free and prosperous.
2. The number of people in the country was far fewer and that number was in a ratio to those who were contributing to society and those who were drawing from society. What I mean is that people came here to work and considered it shameful to take public assistance. They came and worked and chipped in. Today, millions of the immigrants who come here illegally and who hate our culture and want to spread their own cultures here in the public sphere, do everything they can NOT to chip in (working under the table if they do work) and to TAKE everything they possibly can for free (e.g., the ER is their local clinic).
Why it is a CONSERVATIVE argument not only to NOT reward those who came here ILLEGALLY and are sucking at the public teat but to RESTRICT ALL immigration (legal and illegal) is because we don’t want a giant socialist government to provide for all those who come here as parasites AND we also know that if we lose our uniquely American culture, our culture will divide and fall, and then there is no hope for anyone on the planet for a life of freedom and prosperity.
So, no, it is not a socialist issue to want our government to abide by law and order and it is not a socialist issue to want to preserve our culture and defend our nation from a disunity that is sure to sink us.
I second the emotion. These people with their defeatist attitudes sicken me...no fight, to desire to stand up and speak out and fight this enemy in OUR White House...all they can do and say is nothing that is positive and/or inspiring...or, for that matter, physical in that they get off their behinds and join forces with like minded people who love this country and want to return it to We the People, along with the Constitution, our Freedom and Liberty.
Advice to naysayers: Save your breath and your energy...your commentary is negative, and nothing good comes from negative thinking. Try thinking positive and begin to ACT toward saving this country. Less talk, more action. If you love this country, be the patriot we must all be and get out there and fight!
You are really way off base with this statement. Amnesty has nothing to do with socialism, fascism or capitalism. Amnesty can be granted, or not, by any nation, regardless of ideology. The question is whether it is the right thing to do in the eyes of citizens and their elected representatives.
Amnesty has to do with the (mass) pardoning of those who have committed a crime. These foreign citizens have come here without following the normal legal process to work (visas) or live (citizenship) in this country.
The normal legal application and process for visas and citizenship are in place to weed out those who logically should be turned away....criminals, subversives, the diseased, terrorists, or clinically insane. Amnesty would short-circuit this process. You can read the reasons for being "turned away" here.
This is why I am against blanket amnesty. Oh, by the way, you need to brush up on the meaning of socialism.
For Hannity, this latest might be the "devolve" state of his illegal immigration position. I first heard him when he was on WGST in Atlanta only. Pre-9/11/2001, he'd occasionally get a call from someone who thought the increasing number of illegal aliens around Atlanta and Georgia was a problem. Hannity would jump down their throats and start babbling about his Irish ancestors, "no Irish need apply", and about how he'd come to the US illegally if he lived in Mexico,etc.
He would not allow anyone to even state why they thought illegal aliens were a problem. Then 9/11 happened and he "evolved" and decided that illegal aliens and porous borders were a national security issue.
And, as you state, since the 2012 election he's changed again, but actually he's "devolved" back toward his pre-9/11 position and was even for a path to citizenship. But now he seems to be backing off from that to some extent.
Things change. The world reached a population of two billion around 1930. The world population 200 years ago was around one billion. Now the world population is seven billion. Can you see any difference in the potential results of unchecked immigration now and 100 or 200 years ago?
And the US still lets in around 1.2 million legally each year. Your argument is complete nonsense.
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